Possible problem?

[duajones]

Noticed this leaf conditon on two plants, Hege German Pink and Stump of the World, one RL and one PL plant. New leaves appear to be slow to grow and have some yellowing around the edges. HGP has been a lighter shade of green from the get go but appeared to be healthy overall. There is a plant between these two that doesnt appear to be affected. Any ideas?

Sorry the pics arent better quality

[duajones]

Looks like no one has any thoughts on this and the pictures probably werent much help. I am very concerned about this and will keep a close eye on these plants over the next few days. I dont want to have to pull them but wont hesitate if it will save my other plants

[Tania]

Duane,

I have seen this before, but I am still clueless as to what may be causing it. A few years back I concluded it was 'environmental', as it did not seem to spread around, but I cannot be sure. This only happened to me for container-grown plants. So maybe stress-related or fertilizer-related issue?

Would be interesting to hear other theories about what this may be.

[duajones]

It was suggested at GW that it may be TYLCV and after looking at more pics, it appears that may be what it is. If so, I am devastated and unsure of what to do. Should I go ahead and remove those two plants? And what should I do to prevent further infection?

[Vince]

Maybe Over watering?

[duajones]

Originally Posted by Vince_chemist

Maybe Over watering?

No sir, the plants have only recieved 1/2 inche of rain plus a light watering since planting other than watering them in at planting time. That and a foliar spray of fish emulsion not long ago

[Polar_Lace]

Hey Duane!

When I looked at your plants in a close up view; I saw White Fly's and other bugs on your plants! They could be the cause of your problems. White Flies carrry alot of unknown dieases.

Take a good look, close up of the pictures above that you posted.

~* Robin

[kwselke]

Duane,

I've seen the same thing a couple of times on my plants. The only thing I've figured out was that it might have been caused by letting the plants become root bound. I have no idea if this is your case or any other comment about a solution.

[duajones]

I must be blind because I cant see any bugs on the plants, but thank you for pointing that out. It seems more and more that the problem may be TYLCV and I will probably pull the plants. I shook every plant in my garden today and didnt see any signs of white flies but will treat for them anyway as I have seen a few when I touch blossoms with my electric toothbrush

[duajones]

I am leaning strongly to pulling the plants tomorrow morning in trying to protect my remaining plants, which of some could already be affected as well. Nutrient deficiencies has also been pointed out to me as a possibility but I have a hard time understanding why it would only show up on 2 plants so far. I did give the two plants a foliar and soil application of seaweed and epsom salts this afternoon. I realize that if it is a nutrient problem it would take some time for results of fert feedings to show up. But again I dont know if I want to risk the other plants by leaving them in place. I am pooling info from here and GW to aid me in my decision and plan to call the local extension again tomorrow and see if they offer any info or advice. May even look into sending a sample to some lab to get tested for peace of mind. Frankly, I dont know what to do but everything I have read about TLCV leads me to pulling the plants now versus waiting. I do plan to purchase some Neem oil or insecticidal soap, and also plan to put up some yellow sticky traps for future use to try and minimize problems. I can only hope that my other plants arent affected and if so, just a few. It would break my heart to lose many more plants.

[amideutch]

Duane, might try spraying your plants with a aspirin solution. Won't hurt and might just help. Ami

[duajones]

Originally Posted by amideutch

Duane, might try spraying your plants with a aspirin solution. Won't hurt and might just help. Ami

I have used aspirin before but didnt stick with it long enough to know if it helped or not. What is your experience and how and what rate do you apply it?

[geeboss]

Crush 2 adult asprins and sprinkle at the bottom of your planting hole along with crushed egg shells and 1 lb fish. Add compost and soil 3 inches and place plant and backfill.

George

[duajones]

Originally Posted by geeboss

Crush 2 adult asprins and sprinkle at the bottom of your planting hole along with crushed egg shells and 1 lb fish. Add compost and soil 3 inches and place plant and backfill.

George

Thanks for the advice. I planted out several weeks ago but may try that the next time I am planting.

[feldon30]

Originally Posted by geeboss

Crush 2 adult asprins and sprinkle at the bottom of your planting hole along with crushed egg shells and 1 lb fish. Add compost and soil 3 inches and place plant and backfill.

George

Yes, all that old wives tales stuff will even fix TYLCV and TSWV. Amazing!