self pollinating cucumbers

[peppero]

Due to poor numbers of female flowers and resulting cucumbers I thought it might be time to try the self pollinating varieties. Would any of you be willing to share your experiences?.

Jon

[Barb_FL]

The only self pollinating cucumber that I've grown is Sweet Success plus Parks All Season; Both set fruit on every flower.

But I don't have issues with the bee pollinating kinds either. I'm growing as a test now - to see if bees will come in the heat, etc (they do) and probably have > 10 to 1 male flowers but still getting a lot of cucumbers. My first picked was Sunday and was up to 19 as of Thursday. I have 3 seeds planted.

What are you growing?


There is a recent thread re: pruning cucumbers and AKMark has posted pictures of Tasty Jade. Excellent results as usual.

[carolyn137]

Originally Posted by peppero

Due to poor numbers of female flowers and resulting cucumbers I thought it might be time to try the self pollinating varieties. Would any of you be willing to share your experiences?.

Jon

https://www.jungseed.com/P/02002/Alibi+Hybrid+Cucumber

The one above has been superb for me, self pollenizing ,never stops producing,great taste and relatively disease tolerant.

Carolyn

[Gerardo]

Monika wins for me. Sweet success is also strong.

http://www.rareseeds.com/monika-cucumber/

[ddsack]

I grow Picolino F1 hyb in pots so I can have early salad cucumbers before the other in-ground cukes get going. It's a baby English type like you get in 6 pks at the store. Wouldn't be that useful if what you are needing is a lot of pickling type cukes, but it sets very well and they grow to eating size quickly. The seeds are a bit expensive, but I haven't had any trouble with germination, and I only grow a couple each season for earlies.

[carolyn137]

Originally Posted by ddsack

I grow Picolino F1 hyb in pots so I can have early salad cucumbers before the other in-ground cukes get going. It's a baby English type like you get in 6 pks at the store. Wouldn't be that useful if what you are needing is a lot of pickling type cukes, but it sets very well and they grow to eating size quickly. The seeds are a bit expensive, but I haven't had any trouble with germination, and I only grow a couple each season for earlies.

Dee, I've grown this one as well as the one I gave a link to above and I think both are great.

Not cheap,so true, but whatever.

Carolyn

[BettaPonic]

Originally Posted by ddsack

I grow Picolino F1 hyb in pots so I can have early salad cucumbers before the other in-ground cukes get going. It's a baby English type like you get in 6 pks at the store. Wouldn't be that useful if what you are needing is a lot of pickling type cukes, but it sets very well and they grow to eating size quickly. The seeds are a bit expensive, but I haven't had any trouble with germination, and I only grow a couple each season for earlies.

I have been wanting to grow something like that. I know some vines can be cloned, is this one of them?

[NewWestGardener]

A bit off topic here. Last fall, i found a mature old Picolino F1 cucumber in the greenhouse with a belly full of seeds, it must have been pollinated by some other variety, so i saved some and planted some this year. The seedlings came up nicely and transplanted well, so we'll see what i'll get out of them. The F1 production was impressive.

[Barb_FL]

Originally Posted by NewWestGardener

A bit off topic here. Last fall, i found a mature old Picolino F1 cucumber in the greenhouse with a belly full of seeds, it must have been pollinated by some other variety, so i saved some and planted some this year. The seedlings came up nicely and transplanted well, so we'll see what i'll get out of them. The F1 production was impressive.

How did you save the seeds? I've tried several ways - fermenting, just getting off the gel and the seeds are mostly flat vs the ones you buy.

[peppero]

Please keep the information coming in.

Jon

[NewWestGardener]

You don't actually save seeds from a parthenocarpic cucumber, they are not developed. The ones i saved must have been pollinated by another regular cucumber that had male flowers, so it produced viable seeds, they were plump and full, not flat, that's why i saved some.
The f2 offsprings from this cucumber are the only variety i am growing in the greenhouse now, so no more cross pollination with others. There are both male and female flowers on the same plants, and a real cumcumber growing, so now they become regular cucumbers. Can i save seeds again? Likely.

Originally Posted by Barb_FL

How did you save the seeds? I've tried several ways - fermenting, just getting off the gel and the seeds are mostly flat vs the ones you buy.

[ginger2778]

Originally Posted by NewWestGardener

You don't actually save seeds from a parthenocarpic cucumber, they are not developed. The ones i saved must have been pollinated by another regular cucumber that had male flowers, so it produced viable seeds, they were plump and full, not flat, that's why i saved some.
The f2s from this cucumber are the only variety i am growing in the greenhouse, they have both male and female flowers on the same plants, so now they become regular cucumbers. Can i save seeds again? Likely.

I think she might actually be asking by what tecnique does a person save cucumber seeds? Ferment? Dry?

[NewWestGardener]

I thought the concern was about seeds being "flat"-- underdeveloped seeds.
Otherwise, yes, fermentation works well.

Originally Posted by ginger2778

I think she might actually be asking by what tecnique does a person save cucumber seeds? Ferment? Dry?

[Barb_FL]

Originally Posted by ginger2778

I think she might actually be asking by what tecnique does a person save cucumber seeds? Ferment? Dry?

+1 Thank you Marsha.

I tried saving seeds from a Snow (pickling cucumber) that grew way TOO large; I let it yellow, but must of not gave it enough time.

[carolyn137]

Originally Posted by NewWestGardener

You don't actually save seeds from a parthenocarpic cucumber, they are not developed. The ones i saved must have been pollinated by another regular cucumber that had male flowers, so it produced viable seeds, they were plump and full, not flat, that's why i saved some.
The f2 offsprings from this cucumber are the only variety i am growing in the greenhouse now, so no more cross pollination with others. There are both male and female flowers on the same plants, and a real cumcumber growing, so now they become regular cucumbers. Can i save seeds again? Likely.

Just repeating what you posted in post #7

(A bit off topic here. Last fall, i found a mature old Picolino F1 cucumber in the greenhouse with a belly full of seeds, it must have been pollinated by some other variety, so i saved some and planted some this year. The seedlings came up nicely and transplanted well, so we'll see what i'll get out of them. The F1 production was impressive)

With parthenocarpic varieties,tomatoes included, at first they have just wisps of undeveloped seeds but as they mature fully formed viable seeds are formed and that's great since how else are parthenocarpic varieties going to be perpetuated?

For sure they are going to rebreed them as I see it and just my opinion,perhaps,after being up close and personal with all the parthenocarpic tomato ones that Dr. Baggett bred and feedback from those who grew them.

Carolyn