Disease ID help please

Love2Troll · May 6, 2009

I order plants each year to bring my dear old mom when I go to MN and help her put in a garden. The ones I got this year have diseased lower leaves. An ID and possible treatmeant would be appreciated.

Thanks,
jt

feldon30 · May 6, 2009

My impression is severe Bacterial Speck, or possibly Tomato Spotted Wilt Virus.

Hopefully I'm wrong.

ContainerTed · May 6, 2009

They look a whole lot like the Bonnie plants I saw at Lowes. Yeah, just about the same amount of coverage of spots on the leaves and with the tendency to turn yellow.

Where did these plants come from???

Ted

**Lee** · May 6, 2009

TSWV effects the upper leaves first. I would say you could rule out that.

Lee

Love2Troll · May 6, 2009

Thanks for the quick replies!!

So I shoud destroy the plants... right?

Love2Troll · May 7, 2009

Ted writes:

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Where did these plants come from???

I've emailed the nursery to try and find out if other customers have reported the same problem. Seems right to not mention the name just yet.

Still don't know what I should do with them.

ContainerTed · May 7, 2009

Love2Troll writes:

"Still don't know what I should do with them."

Put them into a plastic trash bag and keep any part of them away from yours or anyone else's tomato patch. Don't shake them while removing them as the dust off them will drift to other plants. What you have is a potential tomato "pandemic". Spray Daconil or neem oil on all vegetation that's been exposed to those plants and pray you can control the disease.

And about revealing the source, maybe the other customers of that supplier would like some warning. I know that I certainly would. But you have to do your thing.

Ted

Love2Troll · May 7, 2009

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And about revealing the source, maybe the other customers of that supplier would like some warning. I know that I certainly would. But you have to do your thing.

Ted,

I think it only fair to let the nursery respond to my email (sent 8:30 this morning) before I mention names online. I asked if other customers had the same problem or if I'm an isolated case.

So far it has not spread to the dozens of plants that I started February and were in seedling flats right next to the infected plants on my outdoor shelving. Knock on wood!!

JohnT

Love2Troll · May 8, 2009

Heard back from the nursery last night and was assured that they do not have any disease problems and there have been no other complaints. I believe them.

So it's off to the store to buy Daconil and a small sprayer and if the rain ever stops will spray all the remaining tomato plants even though they look good now.

Going to order more plants from a different nursery and have them sent directly to my mom hopefully a day or two before I get up there.

Thanks for all the help!

jt

ContainerTed · May 8, 2009

You might try Selectedplants. Fusion Power sells good stuff.

Ted

feldon30 · May 8, 2009

Daconil has no effect on TSWV or Bacterial Speck/Spot.

travis · May 8, 2009

If it's Septoria leaf spot, I suppose Daconil might help.

If it's bacterial speck or spot, I don't think Daconil will halt the advance of the disease.

I might be wrong on both accounts.

It seems that if your other plants don't have the same disease and these plants have such an advanced case of the disease as shown in the pictures, that the disease was imported to your location and not indigenous.

So, if it didn't come from the nursery, where did it come from?

Love2Troll · May 9, 2009

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You might try Selectedplants. Fusion Power sells good stuff.

I did just that. And Darrel took good care of me! Plants will be sent directly to my mom and will arrive the day before I do.

Also contacted a friend of mine that ordered and received tomato plants from the same original nursery and his were free of disease. How one tray and one tray only of plants got infected is indeed a puzzle. I live in a woods and who knows what evils lurk in there just waiting their chance?

I'm looking into whether super-oxygenated water will kill the bacteria and will keep a couple of the infected plants to play with.

Thanks again for all the help!

JohnT

May 6, 2009	#1
Love2Troll Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: 64079 (Missouri) Posts: 252	Disease ID help please I order plants each year to bring my dear old mom when I go to MN and help her put in a garden. The ones I got this year have diseased lower leaves. An ID and possible treatmeant would be appreciated. Thanks, jt

May 6, 2009	#2
feldon30 Tomatovillian™ Join Date: May 2006 Location: Rock Hill, SC Posts: 5,346	My impression is severe Bacterial Speck, or possibly Tomato Spotted Wilt Virus. Hopefully I'm wrong. __________________ [SIZE="3"]I've relaunched my gardening website -- [B]TheUnconventionalTomato.com[/B][/SIZE] * [I][SIZE="1"]*I'm not allowed to post weblinks so you'll have to copy-paste it manually.[/SIZE][/I]

May 6, 2009	#3
ContainerTed Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: 6a - NE Tennessee Posts: 4,538	They look a whole lot like the Bonnie plants I saw at Lowes. Yeah, just about the same amount of coverage of spots on the leaves and with the tendency to turn yellow. Where did these plants come from??? Ted __________________ Ted ________________________ Owner & Sole Operator Of The Muddy Bucket Farm and Tomato Ranch

May 6, 2009	#4
Lee Tomatopalooza™ Moderator Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: NC-Zone 7 Posts: 2,188	TSWV effects the upper leaves first. I would say you could rule out that. Lee __________________ Intelligence is knowing a tomato is a fruit. Wisdom is knowing not to put one in a fruit salad. Cuostralee - The best thing on sliced bread.

May 7, 2009	#7
ContainerTed Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: 6a - NE Tennessee Posts: 4,538	Love2Troll writes: "Still don't know what I should do with them." Put them into a plastic trash bag and keep any part of them away from yours or anyone else's tomato patch. Don't shake them while removing them as the dust off them will drift to other plants. What you have is a potential tomato "pandemic". Spray Daconil or neem oil on all vegetation that's been exposed to those plants and pray you can control the disease. And about revealing the source, maybe the other customers of that supplier would like some warning. I know that I certainly would. But you have to do your thing. Ted __________________ Ted ________________________ Owner & Sole Operator Of The Muddy Bucket Farm and Tomato Ranch Last edited by ContainerTed; May 7, 2009 at 02:15 PM.

May 8, 2009	#9
Love2Troll Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: 64079 (Missouri) Posts: 252	Heard back from the nursery last night and was assured that they do not have any disease problems and there have been no other complaints. I believe them. So it's off to the store to buy Daconil and a small sprayer and if the rain ever stops will spray all the remaining tomato plants even though they look good now. Going to order more plants from a different nursery and have them sent directly to my mom hopefully a day or two before I get up there. Thanks for all the help! jt

May 8, 2009	#12
travis Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Evansville, IN Posts: 2,984	If it's Septoria leaf spot, I suppose Daconil might help. If it's bacterial speck or spot, I don't think Daconil will halt the advance of the disease. I might be wrong on both accounts. It seems that if your other plants don't have the same disease and these plants have such an advanced case of the disease as shown in the pictures, that the disease was imported to your location and not indigenous. So, if it didn't come from the nursery, where did it come from?