Finally, a Bhut Jolokia.... - Page 6

velikipop · May 17, 2010

They are slow to grow under the best of circumstances. I usually start my super hots, like the Bhut, in late December -January to get fruit by September. Once they get going they will do well. Copmpared to all my other peppers this year the Chocolate Bhut and the Jonah are still tiny.

Alex

matermaniac · May 18, 2010

thanks for that. I was begining to think I may be doing something wrong.

Would a 3 gallon container be big enough to support the plant?

velikipop · May 18, 2010

3 gallons is fine I use 5 gallons or at times 2 gallons. The size of the container will have some affect on fruiting and size. Don't transplant into the larger container until the plant is at least 4 to 5 inches and has well developed roots.

matermaniac · May 19, 2010

glad to hear the 3 gal pots work because I have yet to find a plentiful and cheap source of the 7 gal. I have about 60 total pepper plants this year which could get costly.

mtbigfish · May 19, 2010

Velikipop
You mentioned "Also, have lots of milk or yogurt nearby to extinguish the fire in your mouth."
Buttermilm works even better than plain milk and water just spreads the heat.
I have found taking a packet of sugar and sprinkling on the toungue a few times works great!! Has anyone else used the sugar trick?
Dennis

huntoften · May 19, 2010

I just want it to be duly noted that people that eat this pepper are insane! I'm growing it this year for the first time thanks to a great plant trade with a fellow Tomatovillian and there is no way I'm going to eat the fruits of this plant!

I've got a half dozen crazed maniacs lined up wanting to try it though. I'm making them sign a waiver before they get a pepper from me though!

Habaneros are way too hot for me...I use one or two of them each year in a BIG pot of salsa or pepper jelly. Jalapenos, Kung Pao, Thai Hot, and many others are fine for liberal use.

If you look up Bhut Jolokia or Ghost Pepper on youtube, you can see people eating them and being in severe pain. 4-10 hours of pain? No way!

velikipop · May 20, 2010

We all suffer from some sort of mental condition; growing way too many tomatoes and peppers along with eating extremely hot chiles are just several. The heat from the Bhut lasted about 10 minutes in my mouth...I couldn't imagine 6 hours.

The best advice I can give along with having yoghurt and milk nearby is too not eat one on an empty stomach. That is where I felt the longest period of discomfort. Also, eating too many can lead to ulcers, as I have recently discovered. This year I will only eat the Yellow 7 Pot, Trinidad Scorpion and the Chocolate Bhut, and maybe a few other pubescens varieties.

Alex

Love2Troll · May 29, 2010

Quote:

Also, eating too many can lead to ulcers, as I have recently discovered.

Hi Alex,

Been maybe 10-15 years since one of my doctors told me to avoid hot peppers because I have Crohn's Disease. Other doctors since then have said no problem. Are you talking about a recent medical study?

I'll quit eating the heat the same day I quit drinking beer... LOL! RIP

I grow Bhuts because a little goes a long way & does not overpower a recipe with a strong fruity or other flavor such as a Scotch Bonnet would. Am a big fan of C. pubescens too.

jt

VORTREKER · May 29, 2010

Hot peppers absolutely do not cause ulcers.

velikipop · May 30, 2010

I have read a number of articles on the benefits of peppers and all cite the positive. After suffering some chronic inflammation of the gut both my surgeon and doctor did not rule out the possibility of a realationship between the condition and very hot peppers. They did dismiss the idea that hot peppers promote stomach health. So although this is not definitive and each case is unique, I try to be as careful as possible when eating fresh chilies, because on occasion they do cause discomfort in the gut.I have no problems when eating them cooked.

All I would suggest is that anyone who might have issues with their stomach lining or reflux should be careful when eating the superhots.

As for beer, I am convinced that it is one of the superfoods and couldn't imagine life without it.

Doctors be dammned.

I am staring to develop a liking for the c. pubescens. My other favorite for fresh eating is Purira, great flavour and nice managable heat level.

Alex

Love2Troll · May 30, 2010

Alex,

Thanks much for clarifying. I have Barrett's Esophagus which was supposedly caused by acid reflux. My chronic heartburn ceased almost immediately when I was taken off a medication (Sulfasalazine) I had been on for more than 10 years & now for several years have been free of constant heartburn. Fried in butter scrambled eggs with diced raw onion burritos etc are the only combination I can think of that gives me occasional heartburn now. Hot peppers either raw or cooked don't seem to. I'm what chile-heads call a "moderate". Love the daily heat, but do not enjoy a lot of pain except once in a while.

Pure capsaicin will blister your skin. And I've heard testimony from a trusted source that his face was blistered from just the fumes of a super hot. I have little doubt that eating raw Bhuts would blister your innards.

I'm growing the Bhuts for making powder to add to seasoning mixes & perking up my burrito mixes or salsa concoctions. The aroma of pepper pods in the dehydrator wafting through the house is pure heaven to me!

jt

May 17, 2010	#76
velikipop Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Langley, BC Posts: 768	They are slow to grow under the best of circumstances. I usually start my super hots, like the Bhut, in late December -January to get fruit by September. Once they get going they will do well. Copmpared to all my other peppers this year the Chocolate Bhut and the Jonah are still tiny. Alex __________________ I'll plant and I'll harvest what the earth brings forth The hammer's on the table, the pitchfork's on the shelf Bob Dylan

May 18, 2010	#78
velikipop Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Langley, BC Posts: 768	3 gallons is fine I use 5 gallons or at times 2 gallons. The size of the container will have some affect on fruiting and size. Don't transplant into the larger container until the plant is at least 4 to 5 inches and has well developed roots. __________________ I'll plant and I'll harvest what the earth brings forth The hammer's on the table, the pitchfork's on the shelf Bob Dylan

May 19, 2010	#81
huntoften Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Kansas CIty Posts: 560	I just want it to be duly noted that people that eat this pepper are insane! I'm growing it this year for the first time thanks to a great plant trade with a fellow Tomatovillian and there is no way I'm going to eat the fruits of this plant! I've got a half dozen crazed maniacs lined up wanting to try it though. I'm making them sign a waiver before they get a pepper from me though! Habaneros are way too hot for me...I use one or two of them each year in a BIG pot of salsa or pepper jelly. Jalapenos, Kung Pao, Thai Hot, and many others are fine for liberal use. If you look up Bhut Jolokia or Ghost Pepper on youtube, you can see people eating them and being in severe pain. 4-10 hours of pain? No way! __________________ Kansas City, Missouri Zone 5b/6a

May 20, 2010	#82
velikipop Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Langley, BC Posts: 768	We all suffer from some sort of mental condition; growing way too many tomatoes and peppers along with eating extremely hot chiles are just several. The heat from the Bhut lasted about 10 minutes in my mouth...I couldn't imagine 6 hours. The best advice I can give along with having yoghurt and milk nearby is too not eat one on an empty stomach. That is where I felt the longest period of discomfort. Also, eating too many can lead to ulcers, as I have recently discovered. This year I will only eat the Yellow 7 Pot, Trinidad Scorpion and the Chocolate Bhut, and maybe a few other pubescens varieties. Alex __________________ I'll plant and I'll harvest what the earth brings forth The hammer's on the table, the pitchfork's on the shelf Bob Dylan

May 29, 2010	#84
VORTREKER Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Pottsboro Texas 7B-8A TRANSITION ZONE Posts: 77	. Hot peppers absolutely do not cause ulcers. __________________ Have you gardened all of your life? Not yet.

May 18, 2010	#77
matermaniac Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Slightly North of Charleston, SC Posts: 114	thanks for that. I was begining to think I may be doing something wrong. Would a 3 gallon container be big enough to support the plant?

May 19, 2010	#80
mtbigfish Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Chillicothe Ohio - left Calif July 2010 Posts: 451	Velikipop You mentioned "Also, have lots of milk or yogurt nearby to extinguish the fire in your mouth." Buttermilm works even better than plain milk and water just spreads the heat. I have found taking a packet of sugar and sprinkling on the toungue a few times works great!! Has anyone else used the sugar trick? Dennis

May 30, 2010	#85
velikipop Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Langley, BC Posts: 768	I have read a number of articles on the benefits of peppers and all cite the positive. After suffering some chronic inflammation of the gut both my surgeon and doctor did not rule out the possibility of a realationship between the condition and very hot peppers. They did dismiss the idea that hot peppers promote stomach health. So although this is not definitive and each case is unique, I try to be as careful as possible when eating fresh chilies, because on occasion they do cause discomfort in the gut.I have no problems when eating them cooked. All I would suggest is that anyone who might have issues with their stomach lining or reflux should be careful when eating the superhots. As for beer, I am convinced that it is one of the superfoods and couldn't imagine life without it. Doctors be dammned. I am staring to develop a liking for the c. pubescens. My other favorite for fresh eating is Purira, great flavour and nice managable heat level. Alex __________________ I'll plant and I'll harvest what the earth brings forth The hammer's on the table, the pitchfork's on the shelf Bob Dylan

May 30, 2010	#86
Love2Troll Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: 64079 (Missouri) Posts: 252	Alex, Thanks much for clarifying. I have Barrett's Esophagus which was supposedly caused by acid reflux. My chronic heartburn ceased almost immediately when I was taken off a medication (Sulfasalazine) I had been on for more than 10 years & now for several years have been free of constant heartburn. Fried in butter scrambled eggs with diced raw onion burritos etc are the only combination I can think of that gives me occasional heartburn now. Hot peppers either raw or cooked don't seem to. I'm what chile-heads call a "moderate". Love the daily heat, but do not enjoy a lot of pain except once in a while. Pure capsaicin will blister your skin. And I've heard testimony from a trusted source that his face was blistered from just the fumes of a super hot. I have little doubt that eating raw Bhuts would blister your innards. I'm growing the Bhuts for making powder to add to seasoning mixes & perking up my burrito mixes or salsa concoctions. The aroma of pepper pods in the dehydrator wafting through the house is pure heaven to me! jt