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April 19, 2011 | #1 |
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First PL leaves
I have never seen this early PL leaves before, i grew these seeds last year they were to be Paul Robeson. I grew 3 plants, 2 actually PR, but this one was had beautiful red tomatos. So i keep seed from it, it is so different looking now, i do have other PL plants which dont look this this now.
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April 19, 2011 | #2 |
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I just see that the 2 look different in this pot.
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April 19, 2011 | #3 |
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PL and RL is what you have.
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April 19, 2011 | #4 |
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I usually wait until I see the 2nd or third set of leaves before I can decide if what looks PL turns out to be RL or stays PL. Those that are RL show it very quickly but not so much with many of the PL's.
I've been faked out many times when what looked like a PL turned out to be an RL.
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April 19, 2011 | #5 |
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I posted this shot of the variant P Robeson plant last year here i grew, of 3 plants this one had red fruit and was a unbelievable sweet red tomato. I hope these seeds come out the same, they came from the this red one. So funny i did not grow any red tomato plants last year other than cherrys , but my luck getting this variant from P Rosebon
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April 20, 2011 | #6 |
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It was probably a chance F-1 cross in your Paul Robeson seeds
(Paul Robeson is probably one parent, the other parent unknown). You should probably give it a new name. This year's plants would be F-2, so saved seeds from them would be F-3. (If the plant is exactly like last year's, on the other hand, then it was probably a stray seed from some already named variety.)
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April 21, 2011 | #7 |
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This plant last year was in a pot 5 gal, grew ok with these red fruits, and the other were in the ground here and i gave 1 to my neighbors. As you see the correct color in this shot of P.R.on the left, I don't think any plants had PL either so hopefully a F3- Son Of Paul Robeson.
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April 21, 2011 | #8 |
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You could call it "Red Rover".:-)
As you grow out plants from subsequent generations, there could be dark-fruited selections (like Paul Robeson was) in the F-2, F-3, or F-4 generations.
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April 21, 2011 | #9 |
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Red Rover, or Son of P. Robeson
I an not to experienced with red tomatoes does this look like any red tomato's any one has grown, as shown very smooth tomato's, full of juice and very thick walls . |
April 22, 2011 | #10 |
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It probably looks like 100s of varieties that others have
grown (you cannot normally tell one red tomato from another on looks alone). I would just wait to see what happens with this year's plants (are the fruit all alike on the different plants in appearance and flavor; if not, last year's plant was a cross, and you probably have F-2 plants of it this year).
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April 22, 2011 | #11 |
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Yes, the other P.R. plants were wonderful, i loved them, also my neighbor did, and are starting seedlings of them now also, I will grow both this year again. But this pot has 2 seedlings in it, both might be f2 plants so i might pick one only? Probably the PL one I will keep with new name Red Rover.
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April 22, 2011 | #12 |
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Oh, you have a PL and an RL from saved seeds from the same
plant? Then it was a cross for sure. Maybe you can get a friend or neighbor or relative to grow the RL one for you if you do not have space for it. You could call them "Red Rover PL" and "Red Rover RL".
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