Question about Stump seedlings

[mecktom]

I am seeing PL and RL seedlings from Stump of the World. I received the seeds from someone who saved them himself and is a very reliable person. I know this is a PL variety and I also have seen this discussed here before. I have a couple of questions....should the RL be discarded and would you consider the PL seedlings to be true SOTW?? I have plenty of other varieties but was looking forward to trying this one. Thanks in advance.

[tessa]

i think that if the PL and the RL plants came out of the same tomato that provided the seeds...they're both hybrids.
i would still love to keep the RL in case something really interesting shows up in the F2. like massive productivity, for example, with classic stump taste. you'd be onto a winner with that.

[carolyn137]

Originally Posted by mecktom

I am seeing PL and RL seedlings from Stump of the World. I received the seeds from someone who saved them himself and is a very reliable person. I know this is a PL variety and I also have seen this discussed here before. I have a couple of questions....should the RL be discarded and would you consider the PL seedlings to be true SOTW?? I have plenty of other varieties but was looking forward to trying this one. Thanks in advance.

Stump off the world has been genetically stable as a PL for a very long time.

So it sounds as though there was some cross pollination that occured with the seeds you were sent. I'm sure he's a reliable person but he can't control X pollinations unless he bagged the blossoms, which few people do.

Yes, I'd discard the RL seedlings.

And since PL is a recessive trait to RL I would proceed on the assumption that the PL seedlings are Stump and you'll know that soon enough.

[carolyn137]

Originally Posted by tessa

i think that if the PL and the RL plants came out of the same tomato that provided the seeds...they're both hybrids.
i would still love to keep the RL in case something really interesting shows up in the F2. like massive productivity, for example, with classic stump taste. you'd be onto a winner with that.

Tessa, within one fruit there can be true seeds as well as X pollinated seeds.

If all the ovules in the tomato ovary are not self pollinated ( seeds to be) then those that aren't can be X pollinated by another variety via insects.

So it doesn't mean they are hybrids. Still OP but a result of not all ovules in the ovary being self pollinated.

[tessa]

ah. i see. thanks for that carolyn.