Question about daconil

noinwi · July 9, 2015

I recently bought a bottle of ready-to-use Daconil. I know I should have bought it sooner but couldn't. Some of my toms are showing spots on lower leaves that looks like target spot(?). My problem is that the Daconil is so thick it won't come out as a spray even when the nozzle is set on spray, so I'm wasting it because it's squirting right past the leaves through the plant. Can I dilute it slightly so it will spray or will that make it ineffective since it's pre-mixed? Also should I use the diluted bleach spray(as suggested in another thread) on affected leaves and wait a while before using the Daconil? Any advice appreciated.

Carriehelene · July 9, 2015

It's a common problem with the ready-to-use. Too thick and spray bottle sucks. IMO, you'd be better off returning it and purchasing a sprayer and regular Daconil. If that's not an option, yes, some people have had some success with watering it down a bit and spraying. Just remember that it is now further diluted than its intended to be.

noinwi · July 9, 2015

Thanks Carriehelene. I can't return it so I'll try diluting a bit and hope for the best. Do they add a thickener to help with adhesion or is the concentrate thick also(after it's mixed properly)?

Bipetual · July 9, 2015

It's just a normal liquid when you mix it from concentrate. I don't add anything to it to help it stick.

**carolyn137** · July 9, 2015

I agree with what others have said above and will extend that to don't buy ANY pre mixed stuff b'c it costs more money in the long run and has a shorter shelf life,

What you want is the Ortho or Bonide Daconil ( chlorothalonil) and it should read about 26% active ingredient on the label, that's chlorothalonil) and dilute per the instructions on the label.

Try to mix what you need for a single spraying since the dilute stuff doesn't last long and also note that rain will wash it off, spreader stickers don't seem to help, so you need to then reapply. I live where rain falls out of the sky a lot.

You mentioned Target Spot and here's a Google search for same.

https://www.google.com/?gws_rd=ssl#q...spot+of+tomato

Two things stand out for me in looking at a few of the links.. First, it's found primarily in tropical and subtropical areas, I forget where you garden, and second, the name has been changed to Alternaria Leaf Spot.

Hope that helps,

Carolyn

noinwi · July 10, 2015

Thanks Carolyn. I was just going by what it looks like(per Googling tomato diseases) and target spot looked to be the closest. I also checked the disease links here on the forum. I certainly don't live in a tropical climate. Rain falls out of the sky here a lot too normally, but we've had some really hot dry weather lately. I won't be able to get any other product until next month and then it may be too late. I'll just have to use what I have and hope it makes a difference.

AlittleSalt · July 10, 2015

You can also do what I did this evening. I mixed 1.5 parts of
milk to 8 parts water. (1.5 cups milk to 8 cups water) Add it to any kind of sprayer you have (Including a 99 cent spray bottle or an old Windex bottle) and spray the plants under/top - everywhere.

There are countless sites that agree with using the watered down milk solution. I did it tonight with one thing in mind - "Why not try it, I've read so many positive things about it." If it fails to help, I will have at least tried. Best of all, watery milk is cheap. Oh, you can use spoiled milk too - it might stink though.

After spraying the milky solution it looked like a herd of meandering lactating cows moseyed their way through our garden. I sprayed all the Fall Tomato plants and the pepper plants. I'm guessing around 100 plants. That mixture took care of all of them. Now I just need to find out how often I need to do this.

pauldavid · July 10, 2015

Quote:

Originally Posted by AlittleSalt

After spraying the milky solution it looked like a herd of meandering lactating cows moseyed their way through our garden.

Robert, you crack me up! Ha ha!

Bipetual · July 11, 2015

Quote:

Originally Posted by pauldavid

Robert, you crack me up! Ha ha!

Me, too. Robert, I really appreciate your sense of humor.

You have cats, right? Did they think they won the lotto?

AlittleSalt · July 11, 2015

Lol, yes. One was licking on a tomato plant so I gave it a bowl of milk and they all enjoyed it.

Bipetual · July 12, 2015

Cool. I love to see me some happy kitties!

July 9, 2015	#1
noinwi Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: PNW Posts: 486	Question about daconil I recently bought a bottle of ready-to-use Daconil. I know I should have bought it sooner but couldn't. Some of my toms are showing spots on lower leaves that looks like target spot(?). My problem is that the Daconil is so thick it won't come out as a spray even when the nozzle is set on spray, so I'm wasting it because it's squirting right past the leaves through the plant. Can I dilute it slightly so it will spray or will that make it ineffective since it's pre-mixed? Also should I use the diluted bleach spray(as suggested in another thread) on affected leaves and wait a while before using the Daconil? Any advice appreciated.

July 9, 2015	#5
carolyn137 Moderator Emeritus Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Upstate NY, zone 4b/5a Posts: 21,169	I agree with what others have said above and will extend that to don't buy ANY pre mixed stuff b'c it costs more money in the long run and has a shorter shelf life, What you want is the Ortho or Bonide Daconil ( chlorothalonil) and it should read about 26% active ingredient on the label, that's chlorothalonil) and dilute per the instructions on the label. Try to mix what you need for a single spraying since the dilute stuff doesn't last long and also note that rain will wash it off, spreader stickers don't seem to help, so you need to then reapply. I live where rain falls out of the sky a lot. You mentioned Target Spot and here's a Google search for same. https://www.google.com/?gws_rd=ssl#q...spot+of+tomato Two things stand out for me in looking at a few of the links.. First, it's found primarily in tropical and subtropical areas, I forget where you garden, and second, the name has been changed to Alternaria Leaf Spot. Hope that helps, Carolyn __________________ Carolyn

July 10, 2015	#7
AlittleSalt BANNED FOR LIFE Join Date: May 2014 Posts: 13,333	You can also do what I did this evening. I mixed 1.5 parts of milk to 8 parts water. (1.5 cups milk to 8 cups water) Add it to any kind of sprayer you have (Including a 99 cent spray bottle or an old Windex bottle) and spray the plants under/top - everywhere. There are countless sites that agree with using the watered down milk solution. I did it tonight with one thing in mind - "Why not try it, I've read so many positive things about it." If it fails to help, I will have at least tried. Best of all, watery milk is cheap. Oh, you can use spoiled milk too - it might stink though. After spraying the milky solution it looked like a herd of meandering lactating cows moseyed their way through our garden. I sprayed all the Fall Tomato plants and the pepper plants. I'm guessing around 100 plants. That mixture took care of all of them. Now I just need to find out how often I need to do this. Last edited by AlittleSalt; July 10, 2015 at 12:23 AM.

July 9, 2015	#2
Carriehelene Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Apr 2015 Location: Upstate NY Posts: 300	It's a common problem with the ready-to-use. Too thick and spray bottle sucks. IMO, you'd be better off returning it and purchasing a sprayer and regular Daconil. If that's not an option, yes, some people have had some success with watering it down a bit and spraying. Just remember that it is now further diluted than its intended to be.

July 9, 2015	#4
Bipetual Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Apr 2015 Location: Illinois, zone 5a Posts: 579	It's just a normal liquid when you mix it from concentrate. I don't add anything to it to help it stick.

July 11, 2015	#10
AlittleSalt BANNED FOR LIFE Join Date: May 2014 Posts: 13,333	Lol, yes. One was licking on a tomato plant so I gave it a bowl of milk and they all enjoyed it.

July 12, 2015	#11
Bipetual Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Apr 2015 Location: Illinois, zone 5a Posts: 579	Cool. I love to see me some happy kitties!