Kitchen Make Over. - Page 11

Hellmanns · June 13, 2016

I'd use black iron pipe. I don't think copper is up to code now.

dmforcier · June 13, 2016

There's a lot to be said for cast iron.

Heck, I remember ice boxes, and I almost bought a pie safe! Does that make me old?

Worth1 · June 14, 2016

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hellmanns

I'd use black iron pipe. I don't think copper is up to code now.

I going to use black iron pipe too.
That CSST stuff is just creepy I dont know how on earth some of this stuff is allowed on the market.

Quote:

Originally Posted by dmforcier

There's a lot to be said for cast iron.

Heck, I remember ice boxes, and I almost bought a pie safe! Does that make me old?

I do too.

Worth

Worth1 · June 14, 2016

I'm glad I held off yesterday to start building.
I changed my mind because I had worked myself into that darn corner again.

Now the cook top will not be installed on a long counter it will be a stand alone cook top I can do as I good and well please with.

Going to do the same with the oven too.
Also another one of my wild ideas seems to be coming into style now.
I appears people are getting tired of or simply cant afford the fancy cabinets they have.
Cheap ones fall apart and good ones many folks cant afford.
I have a big floor to ceiling cabinet in the garage and the thing would be perfect for the oven.
Only one draw back.
It is 6 inches or so too tall due to the stupid fur down.
No way on earth am I going to cut it down.
Worth

dmforcier · June 14, 2016

You want cabinets as good or better than the high end stuff? Use actual faced plywood. My brother and I had to rebuild his whole wet counter due to a leak. He's a bit anal and used 3/4" finish ply throughout. Simple glue and screw butt joints; no carcass needed. The durn thing will outlast the house, and looks really good.

Worth1 · June 14, 2016

Quote:

Originally Posted by dmforcier

You want cabinets as good or better than the high end stuff? Use actual faced plywood. My brother and I had to rebuild his whole wet counter due to a leak. He's a bit anal and used 3/4" finish ply throughout. Simple glue and screw butt joints; no carcass needed. The durn thing will outlast the house, and looks really good.

I dont use anything but real wood or good plywood.
These are going to be made from solid yellow pine that is sealed, stained coated with spar varnish and screwed together along with water proof glue.

Worth

Worth1 · June 14, 2016

I want to add when working with solid wood you cant glue everything you have to give it room to move a little.
If not it will tear itself apart.
Worth

Worth1 · June 16, 2016

The cook top and oven showed up just now.
A few days ago I found a review in Youtube where some guy was complaining about one sort of like mine.
It seems the knobs were plastic and melted.
This had me worried because I read that they had stainless steel knobs.
I just checked and the stove top and oven both have stainless steel knobs or at least metal as they are very heavy for their size.
The Stainless on the cook top is not magnetic so it is more than likely at least 304 stainless like I read someplace.

Also compared to the KitcehnAid cook top I saw at the store the grates are much better on the Kenmore cook top.
The Kitchenaid had little rubber feet to hold them in place and could be moved around.
This one they sit down in the thing and cant be moved around.
It also looks as though it will be very easy to clean.
Not that anybody in their right mind would do this but it will also hold all of my biggest kettles at the same time.

What is does mean I can cook several things at once.
It even comes with its own cast iron griddle so this means I now have two cast iron griddles.
Worth
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Worth1 · June 16, 2016

Okay now for the oven review.
It is bigger than the pictuer and really heavy.

The control knobs are huge and the door doesn't rattle and closes evenly.
I also like the tinted window.
I am glad I didn't tear down my gantry as I am going to need it to install it into the cabinet.
It weighs 145 pounds.

Worth

dmforcier · June 16, 2016

Looks to me like you done good, Worth. Enjoy!

Worth1 · June 16, 2016

Quote:

Originally Posted by dmforcier

Looks to me like you done good, Worth. Enjoy!

I hope so now that I have it in hand I can start building the cabinets.
The black hose you see under the cook top isn't a hose it is the worlds heaviest extension cord for my welder.

3 conductor 6 gauge SEOW cable 85 feet long.
I bought it at the unbelievable low price of 75 cents a foot brand new.
Worth

clkeiper · June 16, 2016

WOW! Excellent on both purchases. Everyone needs a good welder cord!

whistech · June 16, 2016

Worth, congratulations on your new appliances. I can't wait to see pictures of your progress on the new kitchen. By the way, l love your big pots!

Worth1 · June 16, 2016

Now that it is here I cant wait to get started.

I haven done nor bought anything yet to do it.

I completed converting it over to LPG and it was sort of a pain.
The regulator was no problem.
One of the LPG jets fell out of my nut driver and into the cavity of the cook top.
There is no way to even see where it went.
I finally took all 5 burner knobs off and shook the cook top over my head and the jet fell into my shirt pocket.
They have little springs on them to keep this from happening but this one was a little lose.

Then the very last simmer burner was so small my other wee socket wouldn't fit the top of the hex head screw that holds it on and the hole in the top is the only one that is too small for the socket to fit into.
I had to take the socket to the grinder and turn it down so it would fit in this wee space.
I plugged it in and tested all of the igniters to make sure they work.
Anyway it is now converted to LPG gas.

All I need to do is when I get gas to it is adjust the flames.
The knobs are some kind if good steel because they ring when you tap them.

In the pictures you can see the hole where the jet goes and the two wee screws.
Worth
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Worth1 · June 16, 2016

Arlie the big pot up front on the right used to be a Georg Foreman electric grill.
Yet another stupid present my brother got us for Christmas one year.
I took it back To Wall Mart and exchanged it for the Tramontina kettle.
I like it so much I started buying one about ever month or so.
The 16 quart one in the middle I had to drive to the Austin Wall Mart to get.
These are very good kettles right up their with the high dollar ones.
My brother got ticked off at me for exchanging the gift.
Don I didn't need a frigging electric grill I have wood fired grill right there see.

Ever since my brother was old enough to buy gifts he was always buying people all of the vegamatic stuff and other gadgets you see on TV.
One year I ended up with the 1000 piece show time knife set like I needed more knives.

Right before he passed away he tried to give me a used 300 Weatherby Magnum and I told him to sell it to someone.
Not a cheap one either a Mark V.

Worth

June 16, 2016	#158
Worth1 Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Den of Drunken Fools Posts: 38,539	The cook top and oven showed up just now. A few days ago I found a review in Youtube where some guy was complaining about one sort of like mine. It seems the knobs were plastic and melted. This had me worried because I read that they had stainless steel knobs. I just checked and the stove top and oven both have stainless steel knobs or at least metal as they are very heavy for their size. The Stainless on the cook top is not magnetic so it is more than likely at least 304 stainless like I read someplace. Also compared to the KitcehnAid cook top I saw at the store the grates are much better on the Kenmore cook top. The Kitchenaid had little rubber feet to hold them in place and could be moved around. This one they sit down in the thing and cant be moved around. It also looks as though it will be very easy to clean. Not that anybody in their right mind would do this but it will also hold all of my biggest kettles at the same time. What is does mean I can cook several things at once. It even comes with its own cast iron griddle so this means I now have two cast iron griddles. Worth IMG_20160616_41874.jpg Last edited by Worth1; June 16, 2016 at 03:14 PM.

June 16, 2016	#162
clkeiper Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: ohio Posts: 4,350	WOW! Excellent on both purchases. Everyone needs a good welder cord! __________________ carolyn k

June 16, 2016	#163
whistech Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: Between The Woodlands and Spring, Texas Posts: 553	Worth, congratulations on your new appliances. I can't wait to see pictures of your progress on the new kitchen. By the way, l love your big pots! __________________ Arlie

June 13, 2016	#151
Hellmanns Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Jul 2014 Location: kentucky Posts: 1,116	I'd use black iron pipe. I don't think copper is up to code now.

June 13, 2016	#152
dmforcier Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Apr 2016 Location: Dallas, TX Posts: 3,825	There's a lot to be said for cast iron. Heck, I remember ice boxes, and I almost bought a pie safe! Does that make me old?

June 14, 2016	#154
Worth1 Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Den of Drunken Fools Posts: 38,539	I'm glad I held off yesterday to start building. I changed my mind because I had worked myself into that darn corner again. Now the cook top will not be installed on a long counter it will be a stand alone cook top I can do as I good and well please with. Going to do the same with the oven too. Also another one of my wild ideas seems to be coming into style now. I appears people are getting tired of or simply cant afford the fancy cabinets they have. Cheap ones fall apart and good ones many folks cant afford. I have a big floor to ceiling cabinet in the garage and the thing would be perfect for the oven. Only one draw back. It is 6 inches or so too tall due to the stupid fur down. No way on earth am I going to cut it down. Worth

June 14, 2016	#155
dmforcier Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Apr 2016 Location: Dallas, TX Posts: 3,825	You want cabinets as good or better than the high end stuff? Use actual faced plywood. My brother and I had to rebuild his whole wet counter due to a leak. He's a bit anal and used 3/4" finish ply throughout. Simple glue and screw butt joints; no carcass needed. The durn thing will outlast the house, and looks really good.

June 14, 2016	#157
Worth1 Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Den of Drunken Fools Posts: 38,539	I want to add when working with solid wood you cant glue everything you have to give it room to move a little. If not it will tear itself apart. Worth

June 16, 2016	#159
Worth1 Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Den of Drunken Fools Posts: 38,539	Okay now for the oven review. It is bigger than the pictuer and really heavy. The control knobs are huge and the door doesn't rattle and closes evenly. I also like the tinted window. I am glad I didn't tear down my gantry as I am going to need it to install it into the cabinet. It weighs 145 pounds. Worth

June 16, 2016	#160
dmforcier Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Apr 2016 Location: Dallas, TX Posts: 3,825	Looks to me like you done good, Worth. Enjoy!

June 16, 2016	#164
Worth1 Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Den of Drunken Fools Posts: 38,539	Now that it is here I cant wait to get started. I haven done nor bought anything yet to do it. I completed converting it over to LPG and it was sort of a pain. The regulator was no problem. One of the LPG jets fell out of my nut driver and into the cavity of the cook top. There is no way to even see where it went. I finally took all 5 burner knobs off and shook the cook top over my head and the jet fell into my shirt pocket. They have little springs on them to keep this from happening but this one was a little lose. Then the very last simmer burner was so small my other wee socket wouldn't fit the top of the hex head screw that holds it on and the hole in the top is the only one that is too small for the socket to fit into. I had to take the socket to the grinder and turn it down so it would fit in this wee space. I plugged it in and tested all of the igniters to make sure they work. Anyway it is now converted to LPG gas. All I need to do is when I get gas to it is adjust the flames. The knobs are some kind if good steel because they ring when you tap them. In the pictures you can see the hole where the jet goes and the two wee screws. Worth IMG_20160616_55656.jpg IMG_20160616_8143.jpg

June 16, 2016	#165
Worth1 Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Den of Drunken Fools Posts: 38,539	Arlie the big pot up front on the right used to be a Georg Foreman electric grill. Yet another stupid present my brother got us for Christmas one year. I took it back To Wall Mart and exchanged it for the Tramontina kettle. I like it so much I started buying one about ever month or so. The 16 quart one in the middle I had to drive to the Austin Wall Mart to get. These are very good kettles right up their with the high dollar ones. My brother got ticked off at me for exchanging the gift. Don I didn't need a frigging electric grill I have wood fired grill right there see. Ever since my brother was old enough to buy gifts he was always buying people all of the vegamatic stuff and other gadgets you see on TV. One year I ended up with the 1000 piece show time knife set like I needed more knives. Right before he passed away he tried to give me a used 300 Weatherby Magnum and I told him to sell it to someone. Not a cheap one either a Mark V. Worth