AVOID Pepper Joe's AT ALL COSTS! - Page 18

**Mischka** · December 13, 2012

Nice try, Mata Hari wannabe.

I especially liked the dyslexia claim, complete with all those misspelled words. Was that to garner my sympathy - or did you really think it would convince me that you let your (imaginary) cousin use your email account?

Am I to suppose your poor dyslexic imaginary cousin can't afford her own free email account from Google, Yahoo, Hotmail, etc? How kind and generous of you to loan her yours until you teach her how to get one of her own.

After all, she just wants an account here to learn about "tomatos", right?

Simone · December 13, 2012

Uffff,

this is getting more worse every day.

Simone

Tania · December 13, 2012

Folks, I think it was enough drama around this already. I really need rest!

I am going on vacation to my tomato dream land.
Have been dreaming about my spring 2013 garden in the last few days, it has been so peaceful and beautiful, I want to stay in the dream and have it transformed to life one day - I know this will happen soon

Spring comes shortly after Christmas!

**Mischka** · December 13, 2012

Nothing like some fake reviews to bolster your ratings at Dave's Garden!

kurt · December 13, 2012

I guess when you get paid advertisement cash you let everyone do as they please.My hats off to this site caus it consists of real in the know gardeners,honest but firm individuals.Accolades to the owner for providing this site with no advertising popups like I have seen on others.Easy to read,plain simple direct and informative.Someone has to keep the scammers liars and thieves in control and I am glad to help and be part of it.Thanks again Mischka.Kurt in Homestead Florida.

Sun City Linda · December 13, 2012

OMGosh.

Somehow, I guess I hoped that after postings by such reputable memebers as Dar, Ami and others about the methods of these two, the powers that be at TD would withdraw their support. Apparently not.

jennifer28 · December 13, 2012

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mischka

Nothing like some fake reviews to bolster your ratings at Dave's Garden!

How can you be 100% sure they are fake?

neoguy · December 13, 2012

I can't be absolutely certain, but look at their "signed up dates". Kind of coincidental the recent 4 posts were made in just the 10 days. She only had a total of 4 for the last 12 months (if you subtract the 4 most recent ones from the total of 8 for 12 months).

Also, I find it interesting two new members have "1968" as part of their name.

maf · December 13, 2012

Quote:

How can you be 100% sure they are fake?

The near identical reviews posted for both Pepper Joe's and Penny's Tomatoes by each "member" does it for me.

December 13, 2012

The thread at TD has been removed.

Sun City Linda · December 13, 2012

Two of the new members names have some resemblance to Dean Slater, Pepper Joes new BFF

clkeiper · December 13, 2012

This whole saga gets weirder and weirder.JMHO! and I don't even have a horse in the race to be offended or taken advantage of, so to speak.

Just for your info Mischka...I am only a member here and one other if you need to know

. I just don't have time to join every one of the gardening forums out there, I just want to do a better job growing vegetables nor have I run across any as easy as these two to participate in...even though I still don't have any idea how to post a picture here for anybody to pilfer. No need or desire to "stir the pot" adding drama to my life as it already is dramatic enough (which means it is really really really quiet.)

Oh I forgot, I do belong to another one, but it is so hard to sign in I have never been there since I signed up.

**Mischka** · December 23, 2012

Quote:

Originally Posted by jennifer28

How can you be 100% sure they are fake?

"Note from the Garden Watchdog editors...

It is the policy of the Watchdog that customers cannot publish multiple reviews under different usernames in order to manipulate a company's rating. It has been determined that this review originated from the same source as two other recent reviews here. Therefore all these reviews have been changed from a positive to neutral rating so they will not affect the overall ratings given by customers."

See here: http://davesgarden.com/products/gwd/c/6794/

And here: http://davesgarden.com/products/gwd/c/99/

Busted.

**Mischka** · December 23, 2012

Here's a painfully long thread at another forum, where many members are questioning Pepper Joe's dubious claims of selling the "world's hottest pepper"... a pepper that he just so happens to have exclusive rights to distribute seeds. The variety in question has no official testing certification from Guinness or elsewhere. Additionally, there are many complaints of price gouging, which doesn't surprise me one bit.

Some quotes from there include "snake oil" "another P.T. Barnum"

Notice his predictable threats of unsubstantiated lawsuits and challenges to "meet in person" which is the hallmark of an immature bully. There's even a mention of Tomatoville with regard to Joe's threat to shut us down. I feel badly for them because it's obvious to me he's just there to spam their forum mercilessly.

Pepper fans are clearly just as passionate about peppers as we are about tomatoes. The moderators there surely have their hands full with him.

http://thehotpepper.com/topic/34176-hp22b/page__st__560

Doug9345 · December 23, 2012

I just love it when grown adults throw a two-year-old's temper tantrum because they didn't get their own way.

I tend to view hype for what it is, but this has gone way beyond that. When they think they have to post fake reviews, a business person has gone from being shrewed to out of line. When their response is to attack and threaten anyone that disagrees with there statements then there are just nut cases or Sleaze Bags.

December 13, 2012	#256
Mischka Tomatoville® Administrator Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: The Bay State Posts: 3,207	Nice try, Mata Hari wannabe. I especially liked the dyslexia claim, complete with all those misspelled words. Was that to garner my sympathy - or did you really think it would convince me that you let your (imaginary) cousin use your email account? Am I to suppose your poor dyslexic imaginary cousin can't afford her own free email account from Google, Yahoo, Hotmail, etc? How kind and generous of you to loan her yours until you teach her how to get one of her own. After all, she just wants an account here to learn about "tomatos", right? __________________ Mischka One last word of farewell, Dear Master and Mistress. Whenever you visit my grave, say to yourselves with regret but also with happiness in your hearts at the remembrance of my long happy life with you: "Here lies one who loved us and whom we loved." No matter how deep my sleep I shall hear you, and not all the power of death can keep my spirit from wagging a grateful tail.

December 13, 2012	#258
Tania Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Anmore, BC, Canada Posts: 3,970	Folks, I think it was enough drama around this already. I really need rest! I am going on vacation to my tomato dream land. Have been dreaming about my spring 2013 garden in the last few days, it has been so peaceful and beautiful, I want to stay in the dream and have it transformed to life one day - I know this will happen soon Spring comes shortly after Christmas! __________________ Tatiana's TOMATObase

December 13, 2012	#260
kurt Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Homestead,Everglades City Fl. Posts: 2,501	I guess when you get paid advertisement cash you let everyone do as they please.My hats off to this site caus it consists of real in the know gardeners,honest but firm individuals.Accolades to the owner for providing this site with no advertising popups like I have seen on others.Easy to read,plain simple direct and informative.Someone has to keep the scammers liars and thieves in control and I am glad to help and be part of it.Thanks again Mischka.Kurt in Homestead Florida. __________________ KURT

December 13, 2012	#266
Sun City Linda Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: SoCal Inland Posts: 2,705	Two of the new members names have some resemblance to Dean Slater, Pepper Joes new BFF Last edited by Sun City Linda; December 13, 2012 at 08:36 PM.

December 13, 2012	#267
clkeiper Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: ohio Posts: 4,350	This whole saga gets weirder and weirder.JMHO! and I don't even have a horse in the race to be offended or taken advantage of, so to speak. Just for your info Mischka...I am only a member here and one other if you need to know. I just don't have time to join every one of the gardening forums out there, I just want to do a better job growing vegetables nor have I run across any as easy as these two to participate in...even though I still don't have any idea how to post a picture here for anybody to pilfer. No need or desire to "stir the pot" adding drama to my life as it already is dramatic enough (which means it is really really really quiet.) Oh I forgot, I do belong to another one, but it is so hard to sign in I have never been there since I signed up. __________________ carolyn k Last edited by clkeiper; December 13, 2012 at 09:04 PM.

December 13, 2012	#257
Simone Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Germany, NRW Posts: 225	Uffff, this is getting more worse every day. Simone

December 13, 2012	#261
Sun City Linda Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: SoCal Inland Posts: 2,705	OMGosh. Somehow, I guess I hoped that after postings by such reputable memebers as Dar, Ami and others about the methods of these two, the powers that be at TD would withdraw their support. Apparently not.

December 13, 2012	#263
neoguy Tomatovillian™ Join Date: May 2007 Location: NE Ohio Posts: 610	I can't be absolutely certain, but look at their "signed up dates". Kind of coincidental the recent 4 posts were made in just the 10 days. She only had a total of 4 for the last 12 months (if you subtract the 4 most recent ones from the total of 8 for 12 months). Also, I find it interesting two new members have "1968" as part of their name.

December 13, 2012	#265
WillysWoodPile Guest Posts: n/a	The thread at TD has been removed.

December 23, 2012	#269
Mischka Tomatoville® Administrator Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: The Bay State Posts: 3,207	Here's a painfully long thread at another forum, where many members are questioning Pepper Joe's dubious claims of selling the "world's hottest pepper"... a pepper that he just so happens to have exclusive rights to distribute seeds. The variety in question has no official testing certification from Guinness or elsewhere. Additionally, there are many complaints of price gouging, which doesn't surprise me one bit. Some quotes from there include "snake oil" "another P.T. Barnum" Notice his predictable threats of unsubstantiated lawsuits and challenges to "meet in person" which is the hallmark of an immature bully. There's even a mention of Tomatoville with regard to Joe's threat to shut us down. I feel badly for them because it's obvious to me he's just there to spam their forum mercilessly. Pepper fans are clearly just as passionate about peppers as we are about tomatoes. The moderators there surely have their hands full with him. http://thehotpepper.com/topic/34176-hp22b/page__st__560 __________________ Mischka One last word of farewell, Dear Master and Mistress. Whenever you visit my grave, say to yourselves with regret but also with happiness in your hearts at the remembrance of my long happy life with you: "Here lies one who loved us and whom we loved." No matter how deep my sleep I shall hear you, and not all the power of death can keep my spirit from wagging a grateful tail.

December 23, 2012	#270
Doug9345 Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Durhamville,NY Posts: 2,706	I just love it when grown adults throw a two-year-old's temper tantrum because they didn't get their own way. I tend to view hype for what it is, but this has gone way beyond that. When they think they have to post fake reviews, a business person has gone from being shrewed to out of line. When their response is to attack and threaten anyone that disagrees with there statements then there are just nut cases or Sleaze Bags.