Alpine Strawberries? - Page 2

OmahaJB · February 14, 2009

Happened to come across this thread this morning. I have some Alpine Ruegen seeds that I will be starting soon - or trying to. I found it interesting that some of you have had the same plants for years. (Unless I read wrong.) I was under the impression strawberry plants have to be replaced every year. I haven't grown them since my family did when I was a kid, so don't know much about them really. So what I want to ask is, can the plants survive a northern U.S. winter in the ground, or is it necessary to grow new ones each year?
Also, when I start my seeds will it be alright to start them in the same 4" container then transplant into individual containers after they sprout, or should they be started from the get-go in individual 2" & 4" containers? Mine will eventually be transplanted into the ground.

Thanks, Jeff

Sherry_AK · February 14, 2009

Jeff -- If your question is specific to Alpine Strawberries, mine never wintered over. Otherwise, there are many varieties that winter over, even here in Alaska. I think it's best to replace at least some plants every 3 or 4 years for optimum production.

Sherry

OmahaJB · February 14, 2009

Sherry,

I normally have trouble starting small seeds so this may not work for me anyways, but thanks for the info. Was having a hard time imagining strawberry plants wintering over here, but evidently some can.

gardenfrog · February 15, 2009

I've had great results by started by seed as well as bad results. Last year I had poor germination. Have been told that germination is much better after placing seeds in the freezer for several weeks. That's where my seeds are at the moment. Germination for leeks is may also be improved by placing seeds in the freezer for several weeks.

gardenpaws_VA · February 15, 2009

I've never had them NOT winter over, unless there was either severe frost heaving or the squirrels dug them up and exposed the roots. This info is based on gardens in Rochester NY, Cincinnati, Pittsburgh, and zone 7 Northern VA.

FWIW, my alpine strawberries frequently sprout in early fall from the current year's dropped berries (the ones which got mostly hollowed out by slugs), so freezing does not seem to be necessary. They ARE slow to germinate, however.

OmahaJB · February 15, 2009

I'm going to give this a try soon. Two days ago I put the seeds in the fridge. Guess I'll move them to the freezer for a week before sowing next weekend. There's a perfect place in the garden for these so hopefully it'll work out.

Polar_Lace · February 15, 2009

Hi all,

One way that I stratify seeds (when I forget to put them out in the Fall) is to wet down a window sill box, sow the seeds on top of the soil; then place 2 plastic bags of ice on top of them. When I lived in upstate NY I even did it. Cause I always forgot some seeds along the way. I used to let the ice melt on it's own and sometimes followed up with more ice.

If I couldn't put more ice on top, and it was starting to warm up, then I would put some plastic on top with bent metal clothes hangers (I found that walmart sells metal clothes hangers 10 in a pack for $1.24, plastic coated no less, in white or black.) Very fashionable! The plastic sheeting I used was bought at walmart too; in the paint section. A 3 pack of plastic drop cloth (9'x12' each,) gauge .7 mil. They make nice mini-hoop enclosures. I only bought the 9'x12' (3 pack) cause I can't be bothered finagling around with the larger sized plastic.

Using this method I was able to create a winter freezing/warming climate for the seeds that need the stratification method. HTH

~* Robin

Tormato · February 17, 2009

Jeff,

I divided my alpine strawberries crowns last year. I went from 9 plants to 150+. Want some?

Gary

OmahaJB · February 17, 2009

Robin,

Very creative idea there...will have to keep it in mind.

Gary,

I'll send you a PM. Maybe I'll take a couple. I'll pay for shipping of course. Appreciate the offer!

Jeff

February 15, 2009	#22
Polar_Lace Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Z8b, Texas Posts: 657	Hi all, One way that I stratify seeds (when I forget to put them out in the Fall) is to wet down a window sill box, sow the seeds on top of the soil; then place 2 plastic bags of ice on top of them. When I lived in upstate NY I even did it. Cause I always forgot some seeds along the way. I used to let the ice melt on it's own and sometimes followed up with more ice. If I couldn't put more ice on top, and it was starting to warm up, then I would put some plastic on top with bent metal clothes hangers (I found that walmart sells metal clothes hangers 10 in a pack for $1.24, plastic coated no less, in white or black.) Very fashionable! The plastic sheeting I used was bought at walmart too; in the paint section. A 3 pack of plastic drop cloth (9'x12' each,) gauge .7 mil. They make nice mini-hoop enclosures. I only bought the 9'x12' (3 pack) cause I can't be bothered finagling around with the larger sized plastic. Using this method I was able to create a winter freezing/warming climate for the seeds that need the stratification method. HTH ~* Robin __________________ It's not how many seeds you sow. Nor how many plants you transplant. It's about how many of them can survive your treatment of them.

February 14, 2009	#16
OmahaJB Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Toledo, OH Posts: 1,821	Happened to come across this thread this morning. I have some Alpine Ruegen seeds that I will be starting soon - or trying to. I found it interesting that some of you have had the same plants for years. (Unless I read wrong.) I was under the impression strawberry plants have to be replaced every year. I haven't grown them since my family did when I was a kid, so don't know much about them really. So what I want to ask is, can the plants survive a northern U.S. winter in the ground, or is it necessary to grow new ones each year? Also, when I start my seeds will it be alright to start them in the same 4" container then transplant into individual containers after they sprout, or should they be started from the get-go in individual 2" & 4" containers? Mine will eventually be transplanted into the ground. Thanks, Jeff

February 14, 2009	#17
Sherry_AK Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Alaska Zone 3/4 Posts: 1,857	Jeff -- If your question is specific to Alpine Strawberries, mine never wintered over. Otherwise, there are many varieties that winter over, even here in Alaska. I think it's best to replace at least some plants every 3 or 4 years for optimum production. Sherry

February 15, 2009	#19
gardenfrog Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Shelbyville, IN Posts: 343	I've had great results by started by seed as well as bad results. Last year I had poor germination. Have been told that germination is much better after placing seeds in the freezer for several weeks. That's where my seeds are at the moment. Germination for leeks is may also be improved by placing seeds in the freezer for several weeks.

February 15, 2009	#20
gardenpaws_VA Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Northern Virginia, USA - zone 7+ Posts: 161	I've never had them NOT winter over, unless there was either severe frost heaving or the squirrels dug them up and exposed the roots. This info is based on gardens in Rochester NY, Cincinnati, Pittsburgh, and zone 7 Northern VA. FWIW, my alpine strawberries frequently sprout in early fall from the current year's dropped berries (the ones which got mostly hollowed out by slugs), so freezing does not seem to be necessary. They ARE slow to germinate, however.

February 17, 2009	#23
Tormato Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: MA Posts: 4,971	Jeff, I divided my alpine strawberries crowns last year. I went from 9 plants to 150+. Want some? Gary