Trying to be successful, any help appreciated; Sub-Irrigated Planter, ET, &raised bed - Page 5

Dork Fish · June 13, 2012

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Originally Posted by RayR

I don't see any real concern with using any combination of those on the same day. Being cautious about mixing chemicals or mixing chemicals with live biological's like Actinovate, it's always a good idea to do some research or ask the manufacturers of the products if there is any negative issues mixing their product with others you have.
Others here have asked if there was any problem with mixing Actinovate with a Neem Oil product (like Bonide Tomato and Vegetable 3 in 1) which I think was a valid concern because Neem Oil has anti-bacterial properties against at least some types of bacteria , but according to Natural Industries, the only pesticides that are incompatible with Actinovate is "copper based products and any bactericide"

I need to spray for pests today and the only thing that I have left is the Bonide 3 in 1. So I was reading this again and not sure if I am understanding it. Is Bonide a bactericide? Just need to know if I need to run to the store and get something else. If you shouldn't combine them, then what should I get? Should I stick with the Capt. Jacks deadbug?

RayR · June 13, 2012

I think whenever you apply any chemical compounds to plant leaves or to the soil, the effect on different organisms is going to be a mixed bag. Some may be inhibited, some may be increased, and for some there may be no significant effect. I haven't seen any evidence that Neem Oil could be called an actual bactericide although some products sold for human use may claim that is effective against some pathogenic bacteria.
I wouldn't be concerned with it in the mix with Actinovate. Serious bactericides like Copper based products, Bleach or Hydrogen Peroxide would be bad.

Dork Fish · June 14, 2012

I will keep my eye on things, thank you

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Dork Fish · June 16, 2012

Pic update:

Wow, This Black Krim is fussy!

george sr · June 18, 2012

I might have missed it, so thought I'd just ask.

george sr · June 18, 2012

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Dork Fish · June 18, 2012

In the wooden one? It is about 14-15 inches deep. All MetroMix 360

george sr · June 18, 2012

I'm very impressed with your Sub-Irrigated planter method of watering the plants. I'm in the process of converting one of my raised planter beds to this design. My beds are only 12" high, so I'd end up with only 8" above the drain tile, that's the reason for my question.

Dork Fish · June 18, 2012

Oh, I see. You could use it for other vegetables that don't require deep soil. Then you could build another one

Dork Fish · June 19, 2012

The temps are in the mid 90's today and tomorrow. Do I need to do anything special?

Yesterday, it was like hurricane force winds. UGH

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dice · June 21, 2012

Probably just keep an eye on them, see if they wilt any during the day.

Dork Fish · June 21, 2012

I think everything turned out okay. I made sure they were watered in the morning so they didn't dry out. I also placed some cut maple trunks around the base of the ET to help keep it a little cooler.

Dork Fish · June 23, 2012

This is where everything is at currently...

I just don't understand why these two aren't happy. Especially the Black Krim on the left. Also, the Paul Robeson is twice its size. Not sure what to do with them...

amideutch · June 24, 2012

Andrea, Your plants are looking Good. I think you have a handle on it so get some sleep and stop worrying. Ami

Dork Fish · June 24, 2012

Haha, okay.

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June 14, 2012	#63
Dork Fish Tomatovillian™ Join Date: May 2012 Location: Zone 5B Illinois Posts: 402	I will keep my eye on things, thank you Sent from my SGH-T989 using Tapatalk 2 __________________ Andrea

June 16, 2012	#64
Dork Fish Tomatovillian™ Join Date: May 2012 Location: Zone 5B Illinois Posts: 402	Pic update: Wow, This Black Krim is fussy! __________________ Andrea Last edited by Dork Fish; June 16, 2012 at 09:33 AM.

June 18, 2012	#65
george sr Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Stanchfield, MN Posts: 41	How deep is the potting mix in your bed? I might have missed it, so thought I'd just ask.

June 18, 2012	#66
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June 18, 2012	#67
Dork Fish Tomatovillian™ Join Date: May 2012 Location: Zone 5B Illinois Posts: 402	In the wooden one? It is about 14-15 inches deep. All MetroMix 360 __________________ Andrea

June 13, 2012	#62
RayR Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Cheektowaga, NY Posts: 2,466	I think whenever you apply any chemical compounds to plant leaves or to the soil, the effect on different organisms is going to be a mixed bag. Some may be inhibited, some may be increased, and for some there may be no significant effect. I haven't seen any evidence that Neem Oil could be called an actual bactericide although some products sold for human use may claim that is effective against some pathogenic bacteria. I wouldn't be concerned with it in the mix with Actinovate. Serious bactericides like Copper based products, Bleach or Hydrogen Peroxide would be bad.

June 18, 2012	#68
george sr Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Stanchfield, MN Posts: 41	Thanks for the quick reply I'm very impressed with your Sub-Irrigated planter method of watering the plants. I'm in the process of converting one of my raised planter beds to this design. My beds are only 12" high, so I'd end up with only 8" above the drain tile, that's the reason for my question.

June 19, 2012	#70
Dork Fish Tomatovillian™ Join Date: May 2012 Location: Zone 5B Illinois Posts: 402	The temps are in the mid 90's today and tomorrow. Do I need to do anything special? Yesterday, it was like hurricane force winds. UGH Sent from my SGH-T989 using Tapatalk 2 __________________ Andrea

June 21, 2012	#71
dice Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: PNW Posts: 4,743	Probably just keep an eye on them, see if they wilt any during the day. __________________ -- alias

June 23, 2012	#73
Dork Fish Tomatovillian™ Join Date: May 2012 Location: Zone 5B Illinois Posts: 402	This is where everything is at currently... I just don't understand why these two aren't happy. Especially the Black Krim on the left. Also, the Paul Robeson is twice its size. Not sure what to do with them... __________________ Andrea

June 24, 2012	#74
amideutch Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Germany 49°26"N 07°36"E Posts: 5,041	Andrea, Your plants are looking Good. I think you have a handle on it so get some sleep and stop worrying. Ami __________________ Life's journey is not to arrive at the grave safely in a well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out, shouting ‘...Holy Crap .....What a ride!'

June 24, 2012	#75
Dork Fish Tomatovillian™ Join Date: May 2012 Location: Zone 5B Illinois Posts: 402	Haha, okay. Sent from my SGH-T989 using Tapatalk 2 __________________ Andrea