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March 17, 2009 | #1 |
Tomatovillian™
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Is there any type of spray that works on stinkbugs?
Stinkbugs really got me bad in the later part of last season, so this season I am hoping something can be done about them. Organic or chemical does not really matter to me. I just want these things gone. Thanks for any info.
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March 17, 2009 | #2 |
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oooooh, I just detest those leaf-footed stinkbugs - scuttling around in my maters. Being old & fat & having 8 foot high mater towers on top of 20 inch raised beds just made it all the more comical. Those so-in-sos see you coming & scuttle around to the far side of the vines. The only time I was reasonably certain I'd get 'em was when they were ... well... hooked up. BTW - mine laughed & (swear to God) shot a Monty Python maneuver in my general direction before scuttling off to stick their pointy proboscises into my mater vines & fruits!
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March 17, 2009 | #3 |
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Stinkbugs are not only in your garden or garden waste. They're in the walls of your home, barn, attic and other structures. They crawl in through any crack, crevice, or hole they can. Besides eating your plants and veggies, they will eat each other when there is no vegetation. They do eat other bugs, but they'll be very happy to eat your vegetation first instead.
Read these links: Stinkbug Control a really weird way to post info, but a good read. Other Info Scroll down the page. ~* Robin
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March 17, 2009 | #4 |
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I certainly feel your pain when it comes to stink bugs. Trap crops such as millet and maybe even sunflowers seem to be effective for some folks. Last year I used Ortho Max as a perimeter spray early on with my first application being before I actually planted out. I didnt spray the garden area, just the complete perimeter including the alley which has brush and high weeds where they might overwinter. I sprayed under shrubs along the fence line, the wooden fence, both sides of the house and the yard in general other than the garden area. I cant say that what I did made a difference but stinkbug population was way down from the year before. I also remove as many from the plants that I can.
Having said that, I sure hope they dont return in numbers like they did in 2007 |
March 18, 2009 | #5 |
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I detest pesticides, but I hate stinkbugs more! I recently was given an insecticide (Acephate 75SP AG) that is apparently used by farmers in our area primarily for thrips on cotton crops. I think they are similar "sucking" insects like stinkbugs. Here are some of the things I was told. (The person telling me this should know what he is talking about...but ????)
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March 18, 2009 | #6 |
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I googled and here is something I found on Acephate 75SP AG
http://www.cdms.net/ldat/ld0HR001.pdf Sounds scary to me Kat |
March 18, 2009 | #7 |
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Thanks Kat. I have been finding the same kind of technical info. It is sort of like the insurance world....hard to find plain language! There is always the "fend off the liability stuff" in the way of getting to the nitty gritty. This stinkbug thing is really bothering me. I have watched it get worse year after year. I am convinced the "stinkers" are causing a lot of my disease problems. (Bringing disease from neighboring areas). I have noticed the stinkbugs are attracted to tomatoes. If you go after them with anything they fly away but come back quickly. I use very little pesticides. Some years none. I don't like it. The decline in "decent" local tomatoes over the years is what brought me to T'ville. I am hoping for some "miracle" stinkbug eradicator....looks like some other folks are too.
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March 18, 2009 | #8 |
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I had problems with them last year. They were very open about attacking my maters. I even saw one today eyeing my little seedlings.
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March 18, 2009 | #9 |
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It looks like an organophosphate. It does sound scary from the link you posted, but I have seen other links that are less scary. Just don't breathe it and wash your hands well after using. Main thing is to not spray it when bees are present.
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March 18, 2009 | #10 |
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Just went through a three hour seminar on bugs for Master Gardener continuing education and stinkbugs were a talking point. As pointed out cleanup of garden residue is a management tool. As for spray, carbaryl, permethrin, cyfluthrin, esfenvalerate and lambda-cyhalothrin are recommended.
I use carbaryl liquid spray (Sevin) as it is the least dangerous to the ecology.
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March 18, 2009 | #11 |
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Red,
I like duajones idea of treating the perimeter of your garden better. We don't use many pesticides in our farming practice but agricultural sprays, especially if they're restricted ones are MUCH higher concentrates than you'd be able to buy in the store. Plus they are calculated for application by the acre, so you'd have to be careful to figure things out correctly for it to be safe to use/eat. From what I read on your Acephate, it's not used to kill stinkbugs..but aphids and loopers. And it's got a moderate/high kill ratio on beneficials. I'd go purchase something over the counter specifically for stinkbugs and for gardens. Just my opinion
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March 18, 2009 | #12 |
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Thanks to all who responded!
I think the most reasonable approach is to treat the perimeter. The pests will certainly be there to some extent and in my situation they will likely be present in my bushy perimeter before I have much foliage in the garden. I am still interested in the Acephate. My interest is sparked by the experience of the person who suggested it; however, when it comes to polluting the environment you just can't be too careful. Barbee you are absolutely right about the agricultural formula being potent. The few ounces I was given can treat more than an acre. I have done a lot of reading trying to "nail down" a solution that I can trust to be "safe", but I haven't found it! I think my next step in understanding Acephate and its compatability with tomato gardening will be to go directly to the manufacturer. If I get something useful I will post! Steve Last edited by red; March 18, 2009 at 06:36 PM. Reason: correct punctuation |
March 19, 2009 | #13 |
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I had no luck last year in spraying the perimeter prior to planting. Stink bugs were everywhere. The only thing I found that killed them was soapy water. I used Dawn. It seemed to kill most of them when it got directly on them but still some others seemed unaffected. The good news is that they were all over everyone's house (including mine) but they pretty much left my tomatoes alone. I actually saw a couple walking around a couple of weeks ago when the temps hit the low 50's. Do they ever die???
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March 19, 2009 | #14 |
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They do die; but before they do, they multiply! Their ravenous appetites prove it.
Like outdoor cockroaches. ~* Robin
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March 19, 2009 | #15 |
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We don't have that problem up here, but one would think that
some kind of small bird would find them nutritious and tasty. That is one thing that may help in the absence of a known predator bug that will eat them, attract birds to your yard (bird houses, bird feeders, plants that birds like, etc).
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