Peppadew Patent

**tomatoaddict** · July 18, 2009

It was always my understanding that there was an attempt to get a patent on the Peppadew but that it was denied.
One of my blog readers sent me this link to a copy of the actual patent application by Peppadew International. If I'm reading it right, it looks like they were given a full patent right to it.

http://apps.ams.usda.gov/PVPO/Certif.../009800051.pdf

Maybe someone wiser than me can read this and see if that is correct.

kevokie · July 18, 2009

Well, it is definately interesting. It does appear to be a legit document, but then again, I don't read legalese. I didn't know the name of it was Juanita.

ContainerTed · July 18, 2009

While page 1 (the Certificate page) looks good, there are so many corrections (WITHOUT ANYONE'S INITIALS OR ?????) on the subsequent pages, that, as a former U.S. government worker trained in US DoD contracts, I have all kinds of red flags going up on this. Usually, changes are made by some kind of official amendment with additional signatures, etc. Strike-thrus are usually only found on Draft documents and then only with someone's initials.

Something seems out of the ordinary here. However, after looking at a few other patent approvals, it seems the pencil-in stuff is not uncommon.

Ted

Blueaussi · July 19, 2009

I've been hearing chatter about this pepper for a while now, but I've never heard from anyone who'd had one fresh, just pickled or canned. I was also under the impression that the taste had as much to do with how it was pickled as how the pepper tasted. So, I'm wondering if there will be any market for it beyond a burst of novelty interest.

remy · July 19, 2009

That was an interesting document. It is a very good plant id aid. So peppadew is a baccatum type which requires a long growing season. They grow well in pots and can be brought in for the winter. In case anyone is growing a baccatum type pepper.
Remy

Blueaussi · July 20, 2009

Well, not all baccatuums do well in containers. Some are quite tall and sprawly, and do much better in the ground. Baccatuums that I have grown that do better in the ground are Bishops Hat, Chaco Yellow, Pilange, and Queen Laurie.

svalli · July 20, 2009

I have jar of peppadews in fridge. The pickling liquid is so sweet that I would not known by taste that they are baccatums.

I have four baccatum plants growing in pots indoors. I have found earlier that overwintering them and pruning makes them grow more compact. Now I have bent the braches down in circles to keep them from growing all over.

remy · July 20, 2009

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Originally Posted by Blueaussi

Well, not all baccatuums do well in containers. Some are quite tall and sprawly, and do much better in the ground. Baccatuums that I have grown that do better in the ground are Bishops Hat, Chaco Yellow, Pilange, and Queen Laurie.

I think you missed my point. I was sort of saying that if you lived up north, and if you were growing a certain baccatum pepper, and if you were worried about getting a harvest from that certain pepper that you might have luck in pot and bringing it indoors. Not that anyone would be growing a certain baccatum pepper.

Remy

Blueaussi · July 20, 2009

Quote:

Originally Posted by remy

I think you missed my point. I was sort of saying that if you lived up north, and if you were growing a certain baccatum pepper, and if you were worried about getting a harvest from that certain pepper that you might have luck in pot and bringing it indoors. Not that anyone would be growing a certain baccatum pepper.

Remy

*sigh*

Sometimes it's so hard to be a blond.

Sorry, I let my general enthusiasm for the species bubble over.

remy · July 20, 2009

Quote:

Originally Posted by Blueaussi

*sigh*

Sometimes it's so hard to be a blond.

Sorry, I let my general enthusiasm for the species bubble over.

I have that problem often, and I can't blame it one being blonde!

Remy

**tomatoaddict** · July 24, 2009

Well, Here's some pics of what is supposed to be Peppadews. Taken today.

Blueaussi · July 24, 2009

Can you get one of the flowers? Baccatuum flowers are pretty distinct, they have green around the inside of the petals.

Barbee · July 24, 2009

Sure is a purty plant TomatoAddict.

Zana · July 24, 2009

Terry,
My how they've grown since you showed me those plants 3 weeks ago! Hope the rest of your garden is flourishing. I'll be interested to see what the peppadews are supposed to look like since I've never seen any...as yet.
Z

**tomatoaddict** · July 25, 2009

Blue, I will take a pic tomorrow of the flowers. Yes, they do have a greenish color around the inside. These are the tallest peppers I have ever grown.

July 18, 2009	#1
tomatoaddict Moderator Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: zone 5 Posts: 1,459	Peppadew Patent It was always my understanding that there was an attempt to get a patent on the Peppadew but that it was denied. One of my blog readers sent me this link to a copy of the actual patent application by Peppadew International. If I'm reading it right, it looks like they were given a full patent right to it. http://apps.ams.usda.gov/PVPO/Certif.../009800051.pdf Maybe someone wiser than me can read this and see if that is correct. __________________ Secretseedcartel.com

July 18, 2009	#2
kevokie Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Tulsa, OK Posts: 157	Well, it is definately interesting. It does appear to be a legit document, but then again, I don't read legalese. I didn't know the name of it was Juanita. __________________ Kevin "A world without tomatoes is like a string quartet without violins."- Laurie Colwin, Home Cooking

July 18, 2009	#3
ContainerTed Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: 6a - NE Tennessee Posts: 4,538	While page 1 (the Certificate page) looks good, there are so many corrections (WITHOUT ANYONE'S INITIALS OR ?????) on the subsequent pages, that, as a former U.S. government worker trained in US DoD contracts, I have all kinds of red flags going up on this. Usually, changes are made by some kind of official amendment with additional signatures, etc. Strike-thrus are usually only found on Draft documents and then only with someone's initials. Something seems out of the ordinary here. However, after looking at a few other patent approvals, it seems the pencil-in stuff is not uncommon. Ted __________________ Ted ________________________ Owner & Sole Operator Of The Muddy Bucket Farm and Tomato Ranch Last edited by ContainerTed; July 18, 2009 at 05:23 PM.

July 19, 2009	#5
remy Buffalo-Niagara Tomato TasteFest™ Coordinator Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Z6 WNY Posts: 2,354	That was an interesting document. It is a very good plant id aid. So peppadew is a baccatum type which requires a long growing season. They grow well in pots and can be brought in for the winter. In case anyone is growing a baccatum type pepper. Remy __________________ "I wake to sleep and take my waking slow" -Theodore Roethke Yes, we have a great party for WNY/Ontario tomato growers every year on Grand Island! Owner of The Sample Seed Shop

July 20, 2009	#7
svalli Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Vaasa, Finland, latitude N 63° Posts: 838	I have jar of peppadews in fridge. The pickling liquid is so sweet that I would not known by taste that they are baccatums. I have four baccatum plants growing in pots indoors. I have found earlier that overwintering them and pruning makes them grow more compact. Now I have bent the braches down in circles to keep them from growing all over. __________________ "I only want to live in peace, plant potatoes and dream." - Moomin-troll by Tove Jansson

July 19, 2009	#4
Blueaussi Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: South Carolina Zone 8a Posts: 1,205	I've been hearing chatter about this pepper for a while now, but I've never heard from anyone who'd had one fresh, just pickled or canned. I was also under the impression that the taste had as much to do with how it was pickled as how the pepper tasted. So, I'm wondering if there will be any market for it beyond a burst of novelty interest.

July 24, 2009	#12
Blueaussi Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: South Carolina Zone 8a Posts: 1,205	Can you get one of the flowers? Baccatuum flowers are pretty distinct, they have green around the inside of the petals.

July 24, 2009	#13
Barbee Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: SW Ohio Posts: 1,818	Sure is a purty plant TomatoAddict. __________________ *Barbee*

July 24, 2009	#14
Zana Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Southwestern Ontario, Canada Posts: 4,521	Terry, My how they've grown since you showed me those plants 3 weeks ago! Hope the rest of your garden is flourishing. I'll be interested to see what the peppadews are supposed to look like since I've never seen any...as yet. Z

July 25, 2009	#15
tomatoaddict Moderator Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: zone 5 Posts: 1,459	Blue, I will take a pic tomorrow of the flowers. Yes, they do have a greenish color around the inside. These are the tallest peppers I have ever grown. __________________ Secretseedcartel.com