Unknown Pepper noobie questions

[lumierefrere]

I got this pepper from the local farm market. I'm not really a pepper person but this is great. I asked what it was and a week later was told it was "Ivory". So I researched all over the net and no Ivory I could find is this wedge shape. It's never green as far as I know. It goes from ivory to yellows/pinks/oranges and winds up red. It's a thing of beauty and sweet. So I saved seeds and just started them. Popped right up and I have nice seedlings.

Anyone have any thoughts, what can I expect, do I have a chance to get the same thing? Are peppers like tomatoes regarding dehybridization? Not that I have any clue whether this is a hybrid or not.

barb

[Blueaussi]

Have you seen one growing? I can't think of a pepper that doesn't have some sort of green stage, even the variegated ones like Fish are striped green. Is that the final ripe color, or does it get red?

If the grower saves their own seed it's possible that there has been some drift in type from inbreeding or cross pollination.

[mjc]

It could be a Hungarian pepper...there are several FEHÉR peppers. Many of them have that pointed shape. It's a 'color' word, not really a 'type' of pepper so it can be applied to many different peppers.

FEHÉR is usually translated as white, but I've seen it as 'ivory' or 'cream'

[farmall]

That looks like A Albino pepper. They are a white to red pepper.

[lumierefrere]

Blueaussi--no. I've never seen one growing. I've seen them closer to red, I'd say rose, but not like a red pepper. I thought it could be this but this is a bell.
Blushing Beauty Hybrid #9600 (30 seeds) $3.95
ALL AMERICA SELECTIONS WINNER. This bell pepper never is green. Instead, it first appears as ivory, then blushes to light red and orange-red, and finally to deep scarlet, with fruit in several color stages at one time on the plant. Thick-walled, heavyweight peppers are large, about 4 inches long and wide, and 4-lobed with fine, sweet flavor. Compact plants produce abundantly with resistance to a number of viruses and 3 races of bacterial leaf spot. (tomato growers supply)

mjc--wow. This is a really intriguing thought. I thought it was the product of a farm that was more commercial ie they bought seeds in bulk from Harris or something (that would be "local" to us) but there's no reason why it must be. The closest they have to this is Banana Bill but that doesn't look like the wedge shape. That someone would just use the color as the name makes a lot of sense. A paprika pepper, very exotic for around here!

farmall--I googled Albino. It's a bell, isn't it, or was I looking at the wrong pepper?

Very mysterious!

[mjc]

Found one at Hazzards that's a close match...

Romanian Sweet...

2¼ x 5" tapered, very sweet, ivory to orange to yellow to red for a stunning display, thick wall, 60 days

Antohi Romanian

4 x 2" pointed bell, for frying, very mild, yellow to red, brought to U.S. by defecting Romanian acrobat, 53 days

Feherozon is also really close to the pictured pepper.

The Ivory that I've found at some wholesale seed dealers is described as a white, blocky pepper...pretty much what you found.

If it is one of the Hungarian or Romanian peppers, then chances are very high that it is OP.

Just grow them out and see what you get...select for being similar to the parent...save those and grow them out. Rinse and repeat a couple more times and if it wasn't OP, it should be now...

In any case, it looks like a great pepper.

[lumierefrere]

mjc--I did get seeds for the Romanian because it looked similar. (The Antohi looks even closer in this picture). I had no luck with germination unfortunately. I do see where Seed Savers Exchange has the Feher Ozon so I may just give that a whirl. I'm not such a fan of hybrids if only for the seed saving issue so I'd prefer starting with an OP instead of trying Sunbell again. I guess I can put all the "Ivory" seedlings that came up in buckets and see what happens. I don't know that I have a big enough commitment to do this for 5 seasons. I'm into F4 with Purple Haze.

[silas]

That looks exactly like a Seed Savers Feher Ozon to me. I grew them two years ago - very heavy crop, kept on coming

[roper2008]

It also looks similar to the hybrid Gypsy Pepper.

[habitat_gardener]

Originally Posted by mjc

...Antohi Romanian ... brought to U.S. by defecting Romanian acrobat.

This is one more thing I love about OP varieties: the novel or miniseries behind each one.

[relichound]

My guess would also be Feherozon. I grew them last year from seed from Southern Exposure Seed Exchange. Wonderful pepper, very productive.

Jerry

[lumierefrere]

I thought it looked like Gypsy, too. But isn't that as easy a name to remember as Ivory? Maybe I shouldn't focus on the point that I was told it was Ivory. It's not any Ivory we can find. I'm looking forward to trying the Feher Ozon. And seeing what happens with the seeds from "Ivory" I started.

[swiniopas]

a year ago i saved seeds from exact same lookng pod from the market and i'm also wondering what it might be. it was sweet and delicious though. im gowing some this year and germination is 100%. i'm also growing feher ozon.

[lumierefrere]

Swiniopas, you'll have to keep us posted of the results of your peppering.

My Faux Ivory seedlings are doing wonderfully well.

[swiniopas]

ok i will. so you are positive this seeds of yours were ivory?