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Old December 11, 2011   #1
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Default What is wrong with leaves

Not sure what the cause may be with some of my leaves. Just showed up a few days ago.
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Old December 13, 2011   #2
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Anyone have a clue what this may be? Anyone?
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Old December 13, 2011   #3
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Micros excess? are you growing around galvanized metal?
excess salts is another option. these are hard to id without history and detective work!
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Looks like leaf burn to me. Too much sun? Did you spray anything?
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How many plants do you have out there and of those how many are affected?

Are there any other symptoms on the plants? And did all of the affected plants get the same symptoms at the same time?

have you sprayed with anything?

Are the plants watered with any kind of mister spray system?

Did you raise all your plants from seed or were some purchased and are the affected plants ones from seed or from purchased plants?
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Old December 14, 2011   #6
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This is one I.S. plant that is in a ten gallon pot and as of late, has been moved in and out of my garage to avoid frost. It has not gotten continuous light and warmth due to moving it in and out. I have sprayed a 3 in 1 fungicide several times throughout the plants life span, however it has been a while since I've used it. I did prune back the new growth about two weeks ago, in order to move the plant easier and to focus growth on the large cluster of Toms. It is not under or over watered nor is it over fertilized.

I do still have leaf miners which I have been fighting for a while, however this has shown up only with in the last week. It is on about 70 seventy percent of the leaves. It is somewhat brown in color and if the light hits it right, has sort of a oily shimmery sheen look to it. It is hard to tell in the picture, but the spots are indented as if the first layer of the leaf has died or been removed.

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Carolyn, it was one of my plants I started from seed. This particular plant went into this unused pot on September 18th and has been healthy ever since. It was about three and a half feet tall before I pruned it back.

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sounds like nutrition excess salt or micro nutrient. or maybe you flash froze it?
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This is one I.S. plant that is in a ten gallon pot and as of late, has been moved in and out of my garage to avoid frost. It has not gotten continuous light and warmth due to moving it in and out. I have sprayed a 3 in 1 fungicide several times throughout the plants life span, however it has been a while since I've used it. I did prune back the new growth about two weeks ago, in order to move the plant easier and to focus growth on the large cluster of Toms. It is not under or over watered nor is it over fertilized.

I do still have leaf miners which I have been fighting for a while, however this has shown up only with in the last week. It is on about 70 seventy percent of the leaves. It is somewhat brown in color and if the light hits it right, has sort of a oily shimmery sheen look to it. It is hard to tell in the picture, but the spots are indented as if the first layer of the leaf has died or been removed.

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The fact that it's just the IS plant and assuming you have other plants it doesn't look like anything infectious and is not sun or wind burn.

I agree with others that it's probably enviromental or more probable due to leaf damage from spray residual burning the leaves when they were in the sun. Such symptoms don't always appear right away.

You spoke of leaf miners but I guess not on what you pictured since I don't see any evidence of the squiggly white lines that indicate the tracks of the miners within the leaf itself.
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Septoria leaf spot or Cladosporium. Resistant varieties are available.
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That is not Septoria, which I see here every year. It's also not Cladosporium or any fungal or bacterial disease. I agree with others that it looks like damage by some environmental factor such as the sun shining on it when there was spray residue or maybe water droplets there.
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There were no other plants around, and it was brought in any time it was even close to being frosty. Maybe an infection brought on at the pruning ends? Responding to possible burn from spraying, I don't spray very often and I always spray in the late evening right before sundown. Here are some more pictures if they help.
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Looks just like the stuff I had on some indoor basement tomato plants twice this year. Never did find the cause of it and it DID spread, I finally tore them all out, sterilized and restarted. Sunken spots kinda greasy looking, dark if seen through the backside of the leaf, new spots just look real small and shimmery/oily. I looked at every disease page out there and never saw another pic that looked like my leaves...until these. I never sprayed anything on my plants either. Still stumped as to what it is. I never saw the stems get affected. I did notice in later stages that the leaves would shrivel up and curl. No clue...

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1) What's the name of the 3 in 1 fungicide? It would be helpful to know the active ingredient(s) listed on the label. And what disease is the spray intended for? Have you sprayed with anything else, such as soapy water or horticultural oil for insect pests?

2) Only one plant is affected? What kind of potting mix is it planted in, and what amendments were added to the potting mix? Do you have any plants that are not affected? If any affected plants are growing in the ground, what amendments have been added to the soil there?

3) Fertilizers -- what kind, how are they applied, and how often?

I did see a small squiggly line caused by leaf miners in one or two leaves, but the bulk of this damage is not due to leaf miners.

Has the soil or potting mix been amended with compost or manure that you bought somewhere?
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Here are some pics of the ones I had problems with. Icky stuff whatever it is.
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