General discussion regarding the techniques and methods used to successfully grow tomato plants in containers.
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March 11, 2012 | #1 |
Tomatovillian™
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Micronutrient sources?
I think I recall that fish and/or seaweed emulsions can be used for supplying micronutrients to tomatoes. Can an expert(s) confirm and give recommendation(s)
of economical brands. Economical alternatives would also be helpful. Thanks. Tom |
March 12, 2012 | #2 |
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Someone in another thread recommended getting packages of dried seaweed (not roasted or seasoned) from an Asian-foods store, adding one sheet to a gallon of water, and using it after a week (instead of buying the expensive liquid seaweed product).
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March 12, 2012 | #3 |
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Wow habitat, thanks. Neat idea, I will have to look into it.
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March 12, 2012 | #4 |
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I don't know what dried seaweed costs in an Asian food store or what species it is, but I would think you would need a ton of it to compare to the micronutrient content of a bottle of cold pressed Ascophyllum nodosum. I think I'll stay with my Seacom PGR, besides brewing dried seaweed tea sounds like too much work for the likes of me.
Blackstrap Molasses is also a good source of micronutrients—and cheap too! |
March 13, 2012 | #5 |
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What about just side dressing with alfalfa pellets? They are supposed to have lots of micronutrients, too. Plus, alfalfa and seaweed both work as a sort of "growth hormone" which is why I like either at transplant.
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March 13, 2012 | #6 |
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I get alfalfa at a local pet store. It's much cheaper than at the garden store. Just be sure to check the ingredients, since additives are used for some pet feed.
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March 13, 2012 | #7 |
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Thanks for the responses. How much do you alfalfa folks use during a season?
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March 13, 2012 | #8 |
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You might want to think about rock dust. http://remineralize.org/
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March 13, 2012 | #9 |
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Look at Azomite also.
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March 13, 2012 | #10 |
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chalstonsc, I have a garden that is about 2000sq ft and I use about 15lbs of alfalfa pellets with planting in the spring and my climate is mild enough that I plant greens, leeks and garlic in the fall and use about another 5 lbs... It is sold here in Tucson at the feed stores in 50lb bags for about 17 dollars. I also use it in sprays by soaking a cup of pellets in 5gal of water along with a couple cups of compost and a few tablespoons of black strap molasses and I use the pellets around my fruit trees in the spring, so a 50lb sack lasts about 2 years. At least when my granddaughter doesn't use it all up for her horses... LOL.
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March 15, 2012 | #11 |
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I use Diatomaceous Earth for micronutrients. Contains:
Cobalt, copper, iodine, iron, manganese, selenium, zinc, calcium, chlorine, magnesium, phosphorus, potassium, sodium, sulfur 50 cents a lb buying in a 50 lb bag Not good for worms, if you have them in a container. Good control for other pests. Great water retention. |
March 15, 2012 | #12 |
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This is how I make soluble seaweed from a bag of kelp. Collect a garbage bag full of seaweed and tie it shut. Leave it in the garden over winter. In the spring, open the bag and you will find a much smaller amount of odourless black powder or finely composted material that dissolves easily in water. Great for the plants, and free for the taking.
Last year I also found a specific seaweed that was easy to crumble when dry. The 'leaf' of seaweed looked like a cheese grater - full of holes. I don't know the name of this seaweed but I think it's a Laminaria. I collected a fair bit of it and crushed it up, and dug it into my container soil. I was turning the soil today, and couldn't find a shred of it, so I guess it was consumed. Most seaweed takes a full year to break down enough to be available to the plants. |
March 16, 2012 | #13 |
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Do you use the seaweed liquid to water or to spray the seedlings? and when can you first treat the seedlings?
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March 16, 2012 | #14 |
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You can treat the seedlings anytime. I have mixed seaweed meal and
seaweed powder into the seedling grow media that I was potting up sprouted seedlings into. I have also watered them with some diluted liquid seaweed extract. No ill effects. I have sprayed larger plants with it without problems. I expect it would be ok to spray seedlings, too. (You can always test with a few test seedlings if you have doubts.)
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March 16, 2012 | #15 |
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i use maxi crop seaweed as a foliar spray and sidedress my plants with alfalfa meal that i buy at a feed mill seems to work well
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