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Old July 7, 2015   #1
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This started happening yesterday. The plants are either Red Oxheart or Red Brandywine. Just some of the leaves on the plant look like this - the others look healthy. I am unsure what it is, and am hoping a household type thing will cure it (Bleach water?)
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Old July 7, 2015   #2
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I hope not, but maybe ... http://www.ipm.ucdavis.edu/PDF/PMG/T...4NoTriFold.pdf

Probably just a simple mineral deficiency though

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I wish all I had to be concerned about was leaves that looked like that.
I don't see anything wrong, a little physiological leaf roll which is nothing.
What's up with the first picture? The yellowing?
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I'm not sure about the yellow part either or why the leaf turned black on the outer edges in the third picture?

I am going to mix 8 oz. bleach to 1 gallon water and spray it on them. Hopefully, that will correct the problems. These are young Fall garden plants.
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I'm not sure about the yellow part either or why the leaf turned black on the outer edges in the third picture?

I am going to mix 8 oz. bleach to 1 gallon water and spray it on them. Hopefully, that will correct the problems. These are young Fall garden plants.
That is probably too strong a mix and might do more harm than good. If your bleach has 6% sodium hypochlorite then use 7 oz. added to a full gallon of water but if it is the newer stuff with 8.25% sodium hypochlorite then use 5 to 5.5 oz of bleach added to a gallon of water.

It looks like common leaf roll to me and I have it on several of my plants but it hasn't hurt production at all and multiple bleach sprays for other things has not affected the leaf roll. It just looks funny. If it is the disease that was in the link then it is probably systemic and the bleach won't help then either. The black stuff could be several things from LB to Gray mold and the bleach should help with them if applied early enough and in the proper concentrations.

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I just looked at them, and whatever this is - is quickly affecting these plants. The few other new tomato plants out in the garden are not affected, but all 12 of these are.
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That first image looks exactly like what happened to a brandywine plant of mine last year. It was planted in lawn soil that was turned over. I'm expanding the garden a little each year. The leaves developed that stiff, rolled, discolored texture. We didn't get many tomatos off of it.

I figured mineral deficiency since it was not in the garden that has been turned and composted for years.
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Oh,oh, that wilting looks bad.
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Take a feel with your finger for soil moisture about 2-3 inches down, if it is dry give them a good soaking. I'd also get your soil tested to rule out a mineral deficiency.
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We've had a lot of rainy days here in Md. the last couple of weeks. Have you? I've been cutting off yellowing leaves on a Big Rainbow, and would hate to pull it. I've never tried it before. Everything else seems fine.

I've used the bleach mix before in the past, while living in NC during some very rainy summers. It did it's job, but the rain was persistent, and the toms really suffered. It might be worth a try, and or a copper fungicide? Heard about it here, never tried it.

Best of luck, chin up Robert!

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The soil was dry. I watered right after taking the last two pictures. I checked an area where I didn't water, and I let it get too dry. There's a 50% chance of rain overnight.

I will run a drip irrigation line tomorrow.
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Is the top picture of a black tomato or a GWR if it is then you might be having a bit of Gray Mold but it is hard to tell from the picture. It could just be a stem that is wilted from injury or lack of water.

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They are all RWR tomatoes. Red Brandywine or Red Oxheart.

The soil was dry and we had a lot of high winds. I just checked on it again, the limb got damaged by the high winds - I was glad to find that. The plants look a little better today. I had put off watering because of our forecast, but it didn't rain here...yet.

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They are all RWR tomatoes. Red Brandywine or Red Oxheart.

The soil was dry and we had a lot of high winds. I just checked on it again, the limb got damaged by the high winds - I was glad to find that. The plants look a little better today. I had put off watering because of our forecast, but it didn't rain here...yet.
Salt I have learned to blow off the forecast, I know its hard but well you know.

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I know what you mean Worth. The rain is training 60 miles west of us. If it moves here, we will get inches of rain.

Whatever it does, when the chance of rain goes away, I'm going to make 1.5 parts milk to 8 parts water solution and spray the plants down good. I'm thinking it will be this evening when I can do this.

I figure it's best to spray this solution in the evening anyway. That way, the plants can dry overnight before the blistering sun comes out tomorrow.

I have a feeling that it is the beginnings of Gray Mold. The county ag guy told me last year that Gray Mold is what gets a lot plants around here. What I have read about using the milk/water solution tells that it prevents and even cures a lot of diseases and mold. I hope so.

I will hold off on using the bleach until I see what happens after spraying the milk/water solution.

I wonder if there is a way to prevent Gray mold from happening?
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