Garden Safe

[AlittleSalt]

I'm going through a very high pain day due to RSD/CRPS, so I need to make this as basic as I can. Pain is at 7 on the 0-10 pain scale. I need to keep my mind busy to work through this.

I'll post pictures below. I'm thinking that, "Garden Safe" might work to fix the problem/s in the pictures. If so, it costs $14 for concentrate that makes 20 gallons. I'm thinking to spay the plants in the evening once a week.

If I need to use something else, I need to keep the cost to $20 or less. Your opinions and thoughts are much appreciated.

The pictures are of plants planted in May and June. Newly planted tomato plants (Last week) are showing no signs yet - I want to protect them before it happens to them.

[ContainerTed]

Garden Safe is my goto all the time. It may not cure every ill in the gardens we plant, but it is the one I have learned to trust. One day someone may burst my bubble, but it does what I need it to do.

Salty, it's a wonderful fungicide and gives lots of critters a permanent bellyache. It's also good for "preventative" applications.

[pauldavid]

Sorry to hear that you are in pain Robert. I hope it passes soon.

[Bipetual]

Robert, so sorry you're having a bad day.

No expert, but that looks like early blight to me. If Garden Safe has fungicide it would help, but if others agree that it's EB then Daconil or something with the same active ingredient is kind of considered the gold standard from what I've read on here.

[My Foot Smells]

Originally Posted by pauldavid

Sorry to hear that you are in pain Robert. I hope it passes soon.

yeah, that sucks - hope it passes quickly. not familiar with either (RSD or GS); but best with both for a better tomorrow.

[Starlight]

I recommend the Garden Safe products too. When I have big time problems, I pull it out to use.

Salt... Looks like you might even have some sun scald going on there. With the temps as hot as it has been I wonder if maybe your babies didn't get planted out a bit too early.

If those were my plants, since you have cages I would go to a flea market or a thrift store and get you some cheap sheets. Lots of times you can find them for 50 cent to a dollar. Then I would cut them up and drape over the top of your cages. You'd be surprised at how much shade that would give your plants til they got a bit bigger and established.

If you got some shade cloth, you could leave it on 24/7, but if you use sheets, you have to take off when it rains.

Some Garden Safe, TTF and Epsom Salt and a bit of shade til temps cool down and maybe even using Bill's bleach method and I think you might have it made for those plants to produce.

It's a pain, being in pain 24/7. Hopefully you can find some organic methods or foods even to help give you a bit of relief.

[luigiwu]

Hi Robert,
I hope you're feeling better today.
I typically use the milk spray for a fungicide (because I have all the ingredients on hand) but I'm realizing there is a portion of my garden that the sun no longer hits. Im going to have to find a new fungicide. I was trying to decide between Copper and GreenCure/Potassium Bicarbonate and now I have a this new one to consider. I assume you're thinking of Garden Safe Fungicide 3?

[AlittleSalt]

That's the one Luigiwu, Garden Safe Fungicide 3

[b54red]

It does look like some EB going on there in most of the pictures. On your new plants try to keep all the lower leaves pruned off as soon as possible to prevent it from starting on them too soon.

The third picture down looks like a plant with fusarium wilt or possibly TSWV. I don't think a spray will help it.

As someone who has had persistent pain for years I hope yours lets up cause it is a real downer especially when you aren't preoccupied with something like tomato growing.

Bill

[AlittleSalt]

Thank you everyone. I'm trying to keep at least somewhat busy. I complained about every -thing possible this morning - to the cat, and then went out and installed four 40' rows of drip irrigation. I'm just as stubborn as the RSD is.

Bill, the tomato plant in third picture died. I think it was dead when I took the picture. I pulled it and took it to a burning pile. The main stem of the plant felt hollow. That was a first for me.

[b54red]

Originally Posted by AlittleSalt

Bill, the tomato plant in third picture died. I think it was dead when I took the picture. I pulled it and took it to a burning pile. The main stem of the plant felt hollow. That was a first for me.

There are two things that come to mind when seeing a plant die like that when planting this time of the year. One is something like bacterial wilt or a damping off disease if the plant is set out deep and then watered heavily. I never bury a plant deep when setting it out this time of the year because it increases the likelihood of one of those problems. Mulching the area first helps cool the soil and lessen this kind of failure.
Two it could just be fusarium wilt which can destroy a young plant pretty quick in the heat.

I have learned a few tricks for successfully setting out plants this time of the year through trial and error over many years of setting out fall tomatoes. Most important is to not bury the plant deeper than the original depth in the cup. Second is to make sure the plants are really hardened off well and by that I mean hardened off by allowing them to dry out and wilt a few times in full sun before planting. Another is to thoroughly water the area to be planted the day before. Put down a heavy mulch a few days before planting in order to help cool down the soil and just open the mulch up enough to set the plants in. Another thing is to not water the newly set out plants until they start to wilt in order to get the roots off to a big start. Last but not least is to start applying a fungicide as soon as the plants are put outside to harden and weekly after that.

Bill

Bill

[AlittleSalt]

Bill, I enjoyed reading your reply this morning, and agree with the things you wrote above.

First, I sprayed Garden Safe again yesterday evening. I am sticking to spraying them every Sunday evening after the garden is all in shade. While spraying, I have a pair of scissors that I use to cut infected or problematic branches (Mostly the leaf ones). Last weekend I had to cut a lot off. Yesterday, there were only a few that needed to be trimmed off. The plants look a lot better than they did two weeks ago.

I learned last Summer/Fall, that planting deep makes it more difficult getting water down to the roots. Planting deep works for Spring planted tomatoes, but not for Summer/Fall planting.

I haven't tried letting them get dry during the hardening off stage. I have 24 more plants in the hardening off stage sitting out on our front deck under shade trees. They have been outside on the front deck for a couple weeks or so. Our actual Fall plant out date for tomato transplants is the first week in August. I am about to move them out into a more sunny area this morning. I will try letting them dry out some as you suggest.

I fully believe in mulch and shading at the hottest times of day until at least mid-September. I am sold on Garden Safe used once a week just as well. I've also been watering every third day. I haven't seen any wilting due to the ground drying out so far.

[Gerardo]

Originally Posted by AlittleSalt

I'm going through a very high pain day due to RSD/CRPS

The only good thing about days such as this is that they eventually end. I hope they are the exception and not the rule. Cheers!

[Mojave]

Robert, I hope your feeling better. I had untreated gout for about 11 years. I lost my job and hence my health insurance because of it. It's left me with permanently ruined joints, but thankfully the gout is now under control. I know pain.

Take care of yourself my friend.

[AlittleSalt]

I feel better than I did a week ago. I've had to stay out of the sun because I'm taking my last day of Antibiotics. Basically meaning that I had to slow down for the past 5 days and it seems it helped lessen some of the pain - this time.

My grandfather lost his toes and eventually foot to gout. My father lost his leg to diabetes and gout. I'm trying my best to not have the same thing happen to me.