saving seeds

rzr · February 27, 2007

I have two kelogs breakfast seeds that germinated with sort of a brown fury stump at the base of the stem. There are leaves starting to grown from it but it is definitly stunted and is getting going a bit slower then the other plants.

These are the only ones that germinated actually. So my question is, if it produces fine later on, if I save the seeds from one of the tomatos, would they be ok seeds or would they start out like these?

CLa · February 27, 2007

Most likely the fact that the leaves are not popping up correctly is not a genetic trait, and knowing this since you received your seeds from me, because I have had only a few of them come up, and those few had a rough time. Now they looking much better. Infact one of my KB's look better now than over half my plants. So if your plants actually produce fruit, then your saved seed would probably work better, being fresher, as this last batch of seed was obviously not in the best health. But they still carry the Kellegs breakfast genes. (That is if the really are Kellegs breafeast). Which I presume they are, coming from tomato growers supply.

feldon30 · February 27, 2007

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Originally Posted by rzr

I have two kelogs breakfast seeds that germinated with sort of a brown fury stump at the base of the stem. There are leaves starting to grown from it but it is definitly stunted and is getting going a bit slower then the other plants.

Have you read this thread about Seed Starting?
http://www.tomatoville.com/showthrea...3314#post35359

celticman · February 27, 2007

I seem to recall reading so were (that other place on the web) that KB was a slow starter. I grown it as I recall decent germination but it seemed to start slower than the more energetic toms.
celtic

**carolyn137** · February 27, 2007

If I'm picturing this correctly you've got a brown stump where a growing leader stem should be appearing and the cotyledons were on either side and now you're getting some true leaves on either side but nothing growing from that brown stump.

Not good. Because you're going to end up with a seedling that has no central leader stem.

I usually, but not always, see such a situation with older seeds. And it's not all that common, actually.

Quite frankly if you see nothing coming from that central brown stem I wouldn't even bother growing those seedlings b'c they will not give you a normal plant.

February 27, 2007	#1
rzr Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Pflugerville, TX Posts: 79	saving seeds I have two kelogs breakfast seeds that germinated with sort of a brown fury stump at the base of the stem. There are leaves starting to grown from it but it is definitly stunted and is getting going a bit slower then the other plants. These are the only ones that germinated actually. So my question is, if it produces fine later on, if I save the seeds from one of the tomatos, would they be ok seeds or would they start out like these?

February 27, 2007	#2
CLa Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Central Louisiana. Zone: 8 Posts: 207	Most likely the fact that the leaves are not popping up correctly is not a genetic trait, and knowing this since you received your seeds from me, because I have had only a few of them come up, and those few had a rough time. Now they looking much better. Infact one of my KB's look better now than over half my plants. So if your plants actually produce fruit, then your saved seed would probably work better, being fresher, as this last batch of seed was obviously not in the best health. But they still carry the Kellegs breakfast genes. (That is if the really are Kellegs breafeast). Which I presume they are, coming from tomato growers supply. Last edited by CLa; February 27, 2007 at 04:18 PM. Reason: typo

February 27, 2007	#4
celticman Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: NC Posts: 170	kB I seem to recall reading so were (that other place on the web) that KB was a slow starter. I grown it as I recall decent germination but it seemed to start slower than the more energetic toms. celtic

February 27, 2007	#5
carolyn137 Moderator Emeritus Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Upstate NY, zone 4b/5a Posts: 21,169	If I'm picturing this correctly you've got a brown stump where a growing leader stem should be appearing and the cotyledons were on either side and now you're getting some true leaves on either side but nothing growing from that brown stump. Not good. Because you're going to end up with a seedling that has no central leader stem. I usually, but not always, see such a situation with older seeds. And it's not all that common, actually. Quite frankly if you see nothing coming from that central brown stem I wouldn't even bother growing those seedlings b'c they will not give you a normal plant. __________________ Carolyn