tomato leaf issue...

nathan125 · May 30, 2018

So I had one tomato get this bad, so I yanked it out. The other three are showing the same thing essentially. I pruned off the leaves with this junk on it but more are appearing on the infected plants. The other bed of tomatoes look fine but 4 of the 5 in the other bed are with leafs like this.

Shrinkrap · May 30, 2018

Sorry! I don't know what that is. I was here searching for damage from spider mites and Western flower thrip problems, common in my area, and I'm planting in containers. Your plants are in "beds", meaning in the ground? Maybe you can say more about your situation. Might help to narrow down your area from "America". We have similar granite countertops!

greenthumbomaha · May 30, 2018

I can't tell from the photo. Do you have a solid background for another photo? It looks like leaf scorch or fertilizer burn, neither a concern long term. Hang tight until some experts chime in.

- Lisa

Nan_PA_6b · May 30, 2018

Mildew, maybe. A solution of 1 part milk to 9 parts water is helpful.

Or sunburn. Did you harden off your plants, gradually getting them used to the sun?

Nan

nathan125 · May 30, 2018

Plants were in ground for a couple weeks. We got hit with some high winds and rain. Lots of sprays drift through this area so that is a possibility. I did apply some greenish manure around the base along with some osmocote.

Worth1 · May 30, 2018

White spots will go way soon enough keep pinching.
Not uncommon.

Worth

bower · May 31, 2018

High winds and rain... I've definitely seen these 'scorch' spots on outdoor tomatoes when they first get hit with inclement weather. I agree with the advice to just prune em off.
Even my leeks have gotten scorched from being put out this year into wind, frost, etc. Sometimes I've put tomatoes out and had them lose literally all of their foliage, which was soft and tender due to indoor and greenhouse conditions, unfit for the real world. The new foliage that grows back is entirely different, very tough and ready.

The plants do just fine afterwards.
BTW if you're concerned about the rate of leaf loss, there's nothing wrong with pinching part or half a leaf. Personally I think it's good for the plants, stimulating the natural response to herbivores (eg probably increase of solanine) and making the plant less palatable to the preds.

**carolyn137** · May 31, 2018

What is the white stuff I see around the base of the plants themselves?

Does the other bed also have the white stuff as well?

Carolyn

ginger2778 · May 31, 2018

Quote:

Originally Posted by carolyn137

What is the white stuff I see around the base of the plants themselves?

Does the other bed also have the white stuff as well?

Carolyn

Carolyn he's showing a cut leaf on top of a granite countertop.

ginger2778 · May 31, 2018

Nathan, does that large white area rub/scrape off? I think this is just bad sun scald, which it will grow out of, but if it scrapes off then you have a fungal problem.

**carolyn137** · May 31, 2018

Quote:

Originally Posted by ginger2778

Carolyn he's showing a cut leaf on top of a granite countertop.

I was confused when he said

(The other bed of tomatoes look fine but 4 of the 5 in the other bed are with leafs like this.)

So I thought 2 beds were being discussed.I was wrong.

Actually I've never seen such a highly magnified granite countertop like that either.

Carolyn

seaeagle · May 31, 2018

When the lower leaves get infected with a fungus or any type of disease the plants have what Botanists call the Suicide response. The plant actually signals the cells of the infected area to die. So when the lower leaves die it is actually the plant doing it to starve the disease and save itself. Maybe Carolyn can explain this better if she is not to busy at her new website

And yes plants do have an immune system and just like in other species a strong immune system depends on what it is fed. That is the truth.

oakley · May 31, 2018

I've probably seen it all but nothing like that. I had a bit of sun scald this year but it bleaches out a bit more
than that and burns the leaf density to a paper thin spot and falls hollow then browns quickly. Rugosa leaves
take a bit longer to crisp but they never look like that.

That looks shiny like thin oil paint. Any Canadian geese flocks flying over,

Maybe take a few picks of other leaves on the plant and is it just on outside leaves, lower leaves, or newer
growth. ?

zipcode · June 1, 2018

My guess is that those leaves are wet that's why things look a bit funky. It does look like sunscald otherwise.

Shrinkrap · June 1, 2018

How about edema/Intumescence (Oedema) ?

Doesn't look quite right, but reminds me of something ideas once.

http://ucnfanews.ucanr.edu/Articles/...n_plant_leaf_/

May 30, 2018	#2
Shrinkrap Tomatovillian™ Join Date: May 2006 Location: N. California Posts: 701	Sorry! I don't know what that is. I was here searching for damage from spider mites and Western flower thrip problems, common in my area, and I'm planting in containers. Your plants are in "beds", meaning in the ground? Maybe you can say more about your situation. Might help to narrow down your area from "America". We have similar granite countertops! Last edited by Shrinkrap; May 30, 2018 at 11:10 PM.

May 31, 2018	#7
bower Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Newfoundland, Canada Posts: 6,794	High winds and rain... I've definitely seen these 'scorch' spots on outdoor tomatoes when they first get hit with inclement weather. I agree with the advice to just prune em off. Even my leeks have gotten scorched from being put out this year into wind, frost, etc. Sometimes I've put tomatoes out and had them lose literally all of their foliage, which was soft and tender due to indoor and greenhouse conditions, unfit for the real world. The new foliage that grows back is entirely different, very tough and ready. The plants do just fine afterwards. BTW if you're concerned about the rate of leaf loss, there's nothing wrong with pinching part or half a leaf. Personally I think it's good for the plants, stimulating the natural response to herbivores (eg probably increase of solanine) and making the plant less palatable to the preds. Last edited by bower; May 31, 2018 at 08:29 AM. Reason: add

May 31, 2018	#8
carolyn137 Moderator Emeritus Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Upstate NY, zone 4b/5a Posts: 21,169	What is the white stuff I see around the base of the plants themselves? Does the other bed also have the white stuff as well? Carolyn __________________ Carolyn

May 30, 2018	#3
greenthumbomaha Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Omaha Zone 5 Posts: 2,514	I can't tell from the photo. Do you have a solid background for another photo? It looks like leaf scorch or fertilizer burn, neither a concern long term. Hang tight until some experts chime in. - Lisa

May 30, 2018	#4
Nan_PA_6b Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Dec 2016 Location: Pittsburgh, PA Posts: 3,194	Mildew, maybe. A solution of 1 part milk to 9 parts water is helpful. Or sunburn. Did you harden off your plants, gradually getting them used to the sun? Nan

May 30, 2018	#5
nathan125 Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Idaho Posts: 111	Plants were in ground for a couple weeks. We got hit with some high winds and rain. Lots of sprays drift through this area so that is a possibility. I did apply some greenish manure around the base along with some osmocote.

May 30, 2018	#6
Worth1 Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Den of Drunken Fools Posts: 38,539	White spots will go way soon enough keep pinching. Not uncommon. Worth

May 31, 2018	#10
ginger2778 Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Plantation, Florida zone 10 Posts: 9,283	Nathan, does that large white area rub/scrape off? I think this is just bad sun scald, which it will grow out of, but if it scrapes off then you have a fungal problem.

May 31, 2018	#12
seaeagle Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Oct 2014 Location: virginia Posts: 743	When the lower leaves get infected with a fungus or any type of disease the plants have what Botanists call the Suicide response. The plant actually signals the cells of the infected area to die. So when the lower leaves die it is actually the plant doing it to starve the disease and save itself. Maybe Carolyn can explain this better if she is not to busy at her new website And yes plants do have an immune system and just like in other species a strong immune system depends on what it is fed. That is the truth.

May 31, 2018	#13
oakley Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Jun 2015 Location: NewYork 5a Posts: 2,303	I've probably seen it all but nothing like that. I had a bit of sun scald this year but it bleaches out a bit more than that and burns the leaf density to a paper thin spot and falls hollow then browns quickly. Rugosa leaves take a bit longer to crisp but they never look like that. That looks shiny like thin oil paint. Any Canadian geese flocks flying over, Maybe take a few picks of other leaves on the plant and is it just on outside leaves, lower leaves, or newer growth. ?

June 1, 2018	#14
zipcode Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Romania/Germany , z 4-6 Posts: 1,582	My guess is that those leaves are wet that's why things look a bit funky. It does look like sunscald otherwise.