PSR-37
 

Hi, all. I received seeds for PSR-37 from Carolyn last year, as did many of you. In the idig thread she linked to, GGG stated that he had grown 100% PL plants from seed purchased directly from PSR. In this year's SSE Yearbook, Marianne Jones lists it as RL, with a different source.

I'm curious to see what your experience is/has been with this variety.

Thanks.

Sherry

[quote=Sherry_AK;203760]Hi, all. I received seeds for PSR-37 from Carolyn last year, as did many of you. In the idig thread she linked to, GGG stated that he had grown 100% PL plants from seed purchased directly from PSR. In this year's SSE Yearbook, Marianne Jones lists it as RL, with a different source.

I'm curious to see what your experience is/has been with this variety.

Thanks.

Sherry[/quote]

Sherry, it might be good to link to the offer for PSR-37 that I did last year so that folks have some background.

[URL]http://tomatoville.com/showthread.php?t=14401&highlight=psr-37[/URL]

Embedded on the first page of the seed offer is one from idig which also has some info of interest to folks regarding the OP PSR-37 in comparison with the various forms of Early Girl F1 that have been introduced, with pictures.

As I told Sherry in her post in the Tville thread just this afternoon, there were quite a folks who said they were going to grow it out last Fall for a Fall Crop but I haven't seen any reports on that and I just read thru the fall 2010 feedback thread and there was no mention of PSR-37 there either.

So hopefully some of you can update Sherry on what you got as to seed germination since she's having problems and yet the seed, which was Tim Peter's own stock seed and was represented to me as being less than 3 yo and I saw the germination results in that idig thread, leaf form and performance.

Hope that helps.

Sherry,
Sorry I cannot offer better news. I am still waiting on my PSR-37 to sprout.
Of 23 starts I have 19 successful containers with anywhere from 1 sprout to 8 (Indian Stripe) but no sign of the PSR-37 yet.
Will watch this thread to see what kind of success others have.

Len

Well, at least it's not just me! Here, it's one of about 4 varieties that I'm still waiting for ... out of 50+ varieties started. So, it may be a moot point as far as I'm concerned regarding PL vs RL!

Thanks for the report.

Sherry

Zero germination out of 6 seeds after 4 weeks on PSR37. Most all others germinated at 80 to 100%. No explanation just a report for consideration.

ron

(I planted 3 seeds, 2 germinated. One was a "blind" Have one PL plant. to set this weekend in grow bag.)

.... is what Mike in Cypress posted 11 hours ago in answer to Sherry's question in the original PSR-37 seed offer thread where she said she would also post here in the General Discussion area .

If you look at that idig thread I linked to, from last year, the germination was quite good for those who reported back. or I never would have offered them here at Tville.

All to say I wish the germination was higher for these seeds but have no idea why it's not and at least Mike got 2/3 seeds up.

I got seed from Carolyn. I started 3 seed, got either 2 of three or 3 of 3 up (I dont keep that type of record), only kept one. My plant is in the greenhouse now has just fruited. RL.

The original information posted at Peters Seed Research for PSR-37 was that it is a potato leaf line grown out of the original Early Girl hybrid predating the Early Girl Improved hybrid. I still have an original pack of PSR-37 seeds from Peters Seed Research circa 2004 or 2005.

But Peters Seed Research is defunct, and I don't know whether they ever sold seeds for a regular leaf PSR-37 line. Maybe someone has a link to a wayback shot of their online catalog, or even a scan of their print seed list? Until someone shows proof they did, my opinion will remain that PSR-37 is a potato leaf line, and that the so-called PSR-37 seeds that are out there now giving regular leaf plants are wrong seed sourced from that Silverseed fellow.

[quote=travis;204098]The original information posted at Peters Seed Research for PSR-37 was that it is a potato leaf line grown out of the original Early Girl hybrid predating the Early Girl Improved hybrid. I still have an original pack of PSR-37 seeds from Peters Seed Research circa 2004 or 2005.

But Peters Seed Research is defunct, and I don't know whether they ever sold seeds for a regular leaf PSR-37 line. Maybe someone has a link to a wayback shot of their online catalog, or even a scan of their print seed list? Until someone shows proof they did, my opinion will remain that PSR-37 is a potato leaf line, and that the so-called PSR-37 seeds that are out there now giving regular leaf plants are wrong seed sourced from that Silverseed fellow.[/quote]

I don't know what specific batch of PSR-37 seeds that Silver had from Peters, but he had about a pound of seed and was distributing it at idig, and I contacted him there b'c I felt if he had so much seed there might be those at Tville who could use an OP version of Early Girl F1.

Silver never mentioned leaf form and I'd have to go back to that idig link to see if anyone who grew out those seeds got PL, RL, or a mix.

Silver had huge amounts of seeds from Tim Peters for several other varieties and was supposed to send them to me, but disappeared, and I asked Green Zone if there was some way I could find Silver and he said he could e-mail him and did. GZ got back to me much later, twice, and asked if I'd heard anything I said no, which is why I only offered the PSR-37 seeds last year even though in that thread I said I was expecting more varieties, or maybe it was in a different thread where someone was asking about an OP EB.

As for me and my growout lists, "we" don't grow Early Girl.:)

To update ... I finally have 1 seedling up. Of course, way too early to tell leaf type.

Sherry

[quote=carolyn137;204122]
Silver never mentioned leaf form and I'd have to go back to that idig link to see if anyone who grew out those seeds got PL, RL, or a mix.
[/quote]

That's because he doesn't grow tomatoes.

[quote=travis;204127]That's because he doesn't grow tomatoes.[/quote]

Yes, and that too, but I would have thought, perhaps wrongly, that he knew what he was getting when Peters gave him the seeds.:roll:

I'd seen PL at the idig thread I linked too above and I also knew the background of Early Girl F1 from France to CA to Petoseeds to Burpee and I knew that PL was part of the genetic background, but give me a break here , b'c I didn't grow PSR-37 myself to see what it might give and don't want to as I mentioned above.;)

My one (and only) PSR-37 is PL. Though slow to germinate, it's looking good now.

Sherry,

Looks like I have similar results. 1 seedling finally and it is also PL.

All 3 of my plants are PL also.
Sue

I purchased a packet of PSR-37 from Peters Seed Research
back when they were still in business. All plants were PL.

The RL at mariseeds.com is apparently the result of someone's
error, either in what they grew out and saved seeds from or
in a listing.

[URL]http://www.tomatoville.com/showthread.php?t=14401[/URL]

The above thread is from my original offer here of those PSR-37 seeds and if you read what I said on the first page and also open the link I provided you'll see that one of the parents of Early Girl, in France, was PL and the selection that Tim Peter's made when developing the OP version of Early Girl is PL.

Which explains why most of you, I didn't go back to read, are getting what you should, which is PL, and the seeds I provided were through an intermediary who got them from Tim Peters himself.

My psr-37 is rl, and folks have pl. Here is my first ripe fruit-its obviously not psr-37. Its possible I mixed it up when I was starting and its also possible that the seed was mixed up. No way to tell.

I hope it's tasty anyway!

My guess is that is Native Sun, not PSR 37. I also figure the "mix-up" happened in New Mexico near a certain Native American community where a particular individual was entrusted by Tim Peters with seeds of both varieties, plus a few others also now unavailable.

I got PSR 37 and others, eg. Native Sun, from Silver, not Carolyn, and there's no way I could tell the leaf form or post a picture now.

Travis

Interesting. I am in New Mexico all the time, where did this event occur?

Sherry-will post the tasting results soon!

[quote=GunnarSK;211930]I got PSR 37 and others, eg. Native Sun, from Silver, not Carolyn, and there's no way I could tell the leaf form or post a picture now.[/quote]

Carolyn's seeds were from Silver.

He was supposed to send me four others of Peters but disappeared off of idig, I asked Randel if there was any way of contacting Silver and he said he could e-mail him for me, did so, and asked me a couple of times if Silver ever got back to me, which he didn't.

The PSR-37 seeds that Silver sent me were the same ones that he was distributing to lots of folks at idig.

[quote=mdvpc;211933]Travis

Interesting. I am in New Mexico all the time, where did this event occur?[/quote]

Michael, not so much an event as Silver lives in NM and had gotten quite a few varieties from Tim Peters and the game plan was for Tim to start up his seed comapany again, with possibly Silver involved, but from what I know it will never happen, for various reasons.

Whatever I have, whether its op or not, is very tasty. Way better tasting than Taxi.

[QUOTE=mdvpc;216846]Whatever I have, whether its op or not, is very tasty. Way better tasting than Taxi.[/QUOTE]

Michael, it's the OP version of Early Girl F1 that Tim Peters, formerly of Peters Seed and Research, developed.

Some are getting PL plants but that reflects back to the parentage of EG F1 in France where a PL ???? was part of the parentage. I'm pretty sure this was all discussed and a link given on the first page.

Whatever, I'm glad you're finding it to be tasty.

Carolyn

But my fruit are yellow, photo above shows my fruit 4 weeks ago-all were yellow/golden, with a small red blotch on the end.

[QUOTE=mdvpc;216857]Carolyn

But my fruit are yellow, photo above shows my fruit 4 weeks ago-all were yellow/golden, with a small red blotch on the end.[/QUOTE]

Oh, I forgot about that.:lol:

I see Travis commented about it and suggested a mix-up in NM, etc.

Could be. How would I know b/c I took the seeds that Silver sent me and packed them up as requests came in. I only have one open seed source on the table at one time so I doubt it was a mix-up here.:)

As I said before, I believe Carolyn's New Mexico source also had a large amount of Native Sun from the same Tim Peters shipment.