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Originally Posted by kath
Carolyn Male was listed as the source for the variety, so you can check out Tatiana's site or hopefully Carolyn will respond to your post.
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Well yes, I was the first to list it in the 1997 SSE YEarbook and I've spent the last 45 min trying to find that 1997 Yearbook in the two piles to my left on the floor.
I looked to see what Tania had to say about it which was what I had said about it back in 1997 and I wrote then:
HAS, 80 days. Jim has been improving this potato leaf variety, large pink smooth fruit with lucious taste, from Pepper Joe's via Jim Garvey 96
For the life of me I can't even remember who Jim Garvey is, nor Pepper Joe's although a commercial seed place I suspect where Jim bought the seeds, but I remember this variety very well b'c it flip flopped back and forth between PL and RL leaf forms, which I hadn't seen before.
Save seeds from a PL plant and both PL and RL seedlings appear. Save seeds from an RL plant and both PL and RL seedlings appear.
The two plants I grew initially from Jim's seeds were both PL , which is why I listed it as PL, but in saving seeds I ran into this problem which drove me crazy, to be honest.
The fruits were the same, the only difference was the leaf form. A good friend of mine said he had it genetically stabilized, but I wonder, and although we're close firends, HI Craig, I have no idea what happened to it and the fact that others( DG and TF) are flip flopping between leaf forms doesn't surprise me but I can't see any confusion about fruit color as is suggested above, b'c it was always pink for me as received and for Craig as well and also at TF and also at DG.
I didn't check out DG to see who listed it there, it wouldn't have been me, and I didn't check out TF to see who they credited with the variety, and I didn't check out Pepper Joes, and I didn't do a zaba search on Jim Garvey but I think I just got a glimmer of memory that. wait, I've got it b/c I remembered that there was a variety called Garvey's________, found it, it's called Garvey's Plum and the source was Craig ( nctomatoman) in 1993.
So he knows who Jim Garvey is, not that that's going to help with a variety that I found flipped leaf forms as is also seen with TF as well as the DG site with different leaf forms.
No doubt Craig will come along and tell me that he still has it genetically stabilized, to which leaf form I can't remember, but will I believe him?
And yes, back then I lived in Latham, NY, ( which Tania referred to) from which I moved in 1999 when I retired.