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June 19, 2012 | #1 |
Tomatovillian™
Join Date: Jan 2010
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Procrastinating...
I'm waiting for the sun to go down and have/had the intention to spray Daconil for the second time as it's been over a week, we haven't had rain, yet I'm still seeing additional leaves with evidence of EB and Septoria since I sprayed before.
My dilemna is that it's humid and supposed to be very humid and foggy tonight into tomorrow morning. (There has been water pooled in some of the leaves of the PLs that has been there since ~ 1 pm when we got a few drops of rain.) Then the sun is supposed to shine all day and the temps might reach the mid to upper 90's. The concern is that the Daconil will never really dry before the sun is out and it's hot. Looking for some quick opinions as to whether it's better to spray now because it's "time" and I'm seeing disease, or to wait until after the 3-4 day heat wave and just be vigilant about inspecting and picking off the spotty leaves until the weather breaks. Thanks! kath |
June 19, 2012 | #2 |
Tomatovillian™
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My opinion, I would go ahead and spray.
Jen |
June 19, 2012 | #3 |
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June 19, 2012 | #4 |
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I vote you go ahead and do it now, since you're seeing disease. Not despite but especially because it's humid and will continue to be.
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June 19, 2012 | #5 |
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June 19, 2012 | #6 |
Tomatovillian™
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Right place, right time. Now that reminds ME that I need to do some daconil spraying.
Jen |
June 19, 2012 | #7 |
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Me to Jen. Just went out and sprayed.
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June 20, 2012 | #8 |
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So I sprayed last night right after posting, and finished at 8:45 by the light of the lightning bugs! The plants are growing fast- it took 7 gallons of spray this time! Unfortunately, this morning it was foggy as predicted and the Fung-onil is still puddled on the leaves, so I shook cages, stakes and cattle panels to get off as much as possible before the sun burns the leaves.I'm hoping for the best.
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June 20, 2012 | #9 |
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Geesh oh man! How many plants you got? I've got my fingers crossed for you ... let us know!
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June 20, 2012 | #10 |
Tomatovillian™
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7 gallons of spray is an awful lot of spray. How many plants do you have? I would procrastinate too if I had to spray that much.
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June 20, 2012 | #11 |
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Join Date: May 2012
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Hmm and there lays the dilemma. Application rates of foliar sprays per plant can vary significantly from one sprayer to the next and from one persons opinion of "did I spray enough". One person may think they have to soak the leaves till they see it dripping while another person may just be satisfied with damp leaves. One type of sprayer may atomize the liquid more then the next which would help in a more even coverage of the leaves while another sprayer may have a course spray which would cause large droplets of liquid to form on the leaves and roll off essentially soaking the leaf and wasting spray.
Foliar spraying is based on a personal visual opinion not a exact measurement. The more the liquid is atomized "the finer the mist" the better in my opinion just making the leaves damp not dripping with liquid is adequate coverage and will save you money by using less. |
June 20, 2012 | #12 |
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There are about 170 plants out there- well, 170 "spaces" actually. In some of the spaces, there are 2 plants growing as one, and some are over 5' tall now, and although I aim to keep them to a single vine, most of them have forked and split and all the ones in cages have been allowed to fill it up...and so it goes. I always try for the finest mist and got a new sprayer this year that holds 3 gallons and has wheels. Before I was using a 2 gal. one that I had to lug around and when the plants were all big last year I had to fill that thing 5 times to get through all the tomatoes.
The Fung-onil says the leaves need to be coated to dripping so that's what I did. I'd love to save money but I definitely don't want to go through all this and mess it up by being stingy. There isn't a job in the garden that I dislike more than spraying and spraying something on my tomatoes that makes me squeamish to eat them is just about killing me. My goal is to get my tomatoes down to a very small number next year so that I have the time and energy to spray potatoes, peppers, squash and other things that pretty much fend for themselves. I also think it's time to ask for one that has wheels AND doesn't require me to pump- for Christmas, maybe- suggestions for a brand/model, welcome. Thanks for the crossed fingers and the sympathy. Today I'm in their midst, thinking good thoughts and removing spotty leaves/lower branches as many of them are down to the ground again. Guess I should have done that BEFORE I sprayed! By the way, how long before any damage becomes visible? There's not a cloud in the sky and it's in the mid 90's. Back to work- lunch break is over- kath |
June 20, 2012 | #13 | |
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June 20, 2012 | #14 |
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Nope, just DH & me. We do supply the interested neighbors and local food pantries, though, and I can and dry some in addition to eating lots fresh. I'm just trying to find our favorites in the least amount of time possible so that I can obsessively trial watermelons and other stuff.
kath |
June 20, 2012 | #15 |
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Well more power to ya, sistah! How are they doing?
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