My Goose Creek Are Tear-Drop Shaped This Year

rnewste · July 17, 2012

The Goose Creek off one plant are exhibiting some interesting shapes this Season.

Several of the fruit are somewhat taller than they are wide. Not seen this with Goose Creek before:

They are all that dark scarlet color I've known for years - - and the taste, well this is all I can say:

Just wonderfully mellow - with a hint of sweetness. Anyway, the "new" shapes are kind of fun...

Raybo

Henri · July 18, 2012

I wish I know how to fotoshop a hot mushroom omelet under those GC in the last foto, yum!

Henri.

meadowyck · July 18, 2012

Oh my they look like they are at the perfect stage of ripeness to eat.....

**carolyn137** · July 18, 2012

Ray, there's already been a thread here recently about pointy bottoms and odd shapes and someone just posted in my germination thread that the Casino plants were doing same although it was said that the first fruits were the plum shape they're supposed to be.

I responded by saying that with all the weird weather that so many of us are having that I'm not surprised at all of the aberrant forms being seen.

BTW, I still believe and actually know, that the original Goose Creek variety was pink, not red, but if you prefer the red version, far be it from me to try and dissuade you from growing it b'c I know you won't do that.

JamesL · July 18, 2012

Raybo,
Did you save your own seed from last year?

Carolyn,
Goose Creek is a new one for me this year and I don't have any real blush yet to tell the color that I am growing.
Pink is the original? Red would be what then? A genetic aberration that stuck?
What would be the difference between the two?

**carolyn137** · July 18, 2012

Quote:

Originally Posted by JamesL

Raybo,
Did you save your own seed from last year?

Carolyn,
Goose Creek is a new one for me this year and I don't have any real blush yet to tell the color that I am growing.
Pink is the original? Red would be what then? A genetic aberration that stuck?
What would be the difference between the two?

All it takes is a mutation of the epidermis, clear for pink, yellow for red, and those kinds of mutations are not that rare. THey are single spontaneous mutations which means that they heritable.

I used to maintain several varieties in the pink and red forms but never sent out seeds for the wrong color. I can't remember which variety it is, but I had mentioned in my book, I think, that I had a color mutant of something and two years ago Gleen Drowns at Sandhill found the same and listed it.

Ray, the color change did occur at Laurels garden/website, and I got into all of this b'c Adam Gleckler had listed Goose Creek as pink and got a very strong e-mail from someone who said he was wrong and it was RED.

Barb, Coronabarb, who posts here, was a Mod along with me at another site many years ago where we both knew Laurel well and Barb had driven down to Laurel's place to get a plant and at that time the fruits were pink. Jimmy Williams used to sell the fruits off the sidewalk and there was a reference to someone who bought fruits , and they were pink.

Lastly, its in a thread here somewhere but I was asked by a magazine to proof an article they wrote about Jimmy Williams and he was qouted in that article as saying the fruits were pink. I had lots of problems with that article, told them why, and I don't know if they ever published it.

And if you look at the patent application Williams made, which was refused, you can't belive all the colors he referred to in that application.

When there is an epidermis mutation between red and pink fruits, the taste is the same, only the fruit color has changed.

Douglas14 · July 18, 2012

Ray,
Is the taste the same as the more "classically" shaped Goose Creek?

rnewste · July 18, 2012

Regarding the origins of my Goose Creek, mine came from plants sold by Laurel several years ago. Whether she was selling "red" or "pink" at that time - I don't really know. All I DO know is this is my #1 favorite variety. Perhaps I should identify them as "scarlet-pink" in color.

Taste between the "traditional" rounded fruits and these tear-drop shaped is identical. Just a curious aberration this Season to note....

Raybo

tnpeppers · July 18, 2012

Quote:

Originally Posted by rnewste

Regarding the origins of my Goose Creek, mine came from plants sold by Laurel several years ago. Whether she was selling "red" or "pink" at that time - I don't really know. All I DO know is this is my #1 favorite variety. Perhaps I should identify them as "scarlet-pink" in color.

Taste between the "traditional" rounded fruits and these tear-drop shaped is identical. Just a curious aberration this Season to note....

Raybo

The first few Goose Creek tomatoes off of my container plants this year look 'normal', but the flavor is off the charts compared to last year. My wife's reaction to Goose Creek last year was 'Meh...what's the big deal?" These are so good she refuses to believe that they are really Goose Creek. Real good.

Riceloft · July 18, 2012

Goose Creek is definitely on my "to try" list for next season.

JamesL · July 18, 2012

Carolyn,
Thanks for sharing the info. Interesting stuff!

sprtsguy76 · July 19, 2012

This is crazy because I'm seeing the same thing on one of my GC plants as well!!! The only difference is mine are RED!!! What are the chances?!! Ray your's sure do look like they are pink but did you check the skin to be sure??

Damon

ps-These red GC that I have here are not the same taste wise as the pink GC!

Fusion_power · July 19, 2012

I've grown Goose Creek for several years now and have always had pink fruits between 2 and 4 ounces. They are consistent but in my opinion, flavor is never as good as other varieties I grow.

DarJones

kath · July 20, 2012

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fusion_power

I've grown Goose Creek for several years now and have always had pink fruits between 2 and 4 ounces. They are consistent but in my opinion, flavor is never as good as other varieties I grow.

DarJones

Mine were the same- I grew it two years from two different sources and one of them was Raybo. The 2010 version was red, the 2011 was pink. I was hoping for a larger, tastier fruit regardless of color.

kath

sprtsguy76 · July 20, 2012

Wow 2-4 oz? Mine usually run from 4-8 oz with an ocasional 8-12 oz. Just curious what was your seed source? I got my original seed from Ray.

Damon

July 18, 2012	#3
meadowyck Tomatovillian™ Join Date: May 2012 Location: Brooksville, FL Posts: 1,001	Oh my they look like they are at the perfect stage of ripeness to eat..... __________________ Jan “Do what you can, with what you have, where you are.” -Theodore Roosevelt

July 18, 2012	#4
carolyn137 Moderator Emeritus Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Upstate NY, zone 4b/5a Posts: 21,169	Ray, there's already been a thread here recently about pointy bottoms and odd shapes and someone just posted in my germination thread that the Casino plants were doing same although it was said that the first fruits were the plum shape they're supposed to be. I responded by saying that with all the weird weather that so many of us are having that I'm not surprised at all of the aberrant forms being seen. BTW, I still believe and actually know, that the original Goose Creek variety was pink, not red, but if you prefer the red version, far be it from me to try and dissuade you from growing it b'c I know you won't do that. __________________ Carolyn

July 19, 2012	#12
sprtsguy76 Tomatovillian™ Join Date: May 2007 Location: Santa Clara CA Posts: 1,125	This is crazy because I'm seeing the same thing on one of my GC plants as well!!! The only difference is mine are RED!!! What are the chances?!! Ray your's sure do look like they are pink but did you check the skin to be sure?? Damon ps-These red GC that I have here are not the same taste wise as the pink GC! Last edited by sprtsguy76; July 19, 2012 at 12:07 AM.

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July 17, 2012	#1
rnewste Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Campbell, CA Posts: 4,064	My Goose Creek Are Tear-Drop Shaped This Year The Goose Creek off one plant are exhibiting some interesting shapes this Season. Several of the fruit are somewhat taller than they are wide. Not seen this with Goose Creek before: They are all that dark scarlet color I've known for years - - and the taste, well this is all I can say: Just wonderfully mellow - with a hint of sweetness. Anyway, the "new" shapes are kind of fun... Raybo

July 18, 2012	#2
Henri Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Santa Ana, CA Posts: 16	I wish I know how to fotoshop a hot mushroom omelet under those GC in the last foto, yum! Henri.

July 18, 2012	#5
JamesL Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Long Island NY Posts: 1,992	Raybo, Did you save your own seed from last year? Carolyn, Goose Creek is a new one for me this year and I don't have any real blush yet to tell the color that I am growing. Pink is the original? Red would be what then? A genetic aberration that stuck? What would be the difference between the two?

July 18, 2012	#7
Douglas14 Tomatovillian™ Join Date: May 2007 Location: Minnesota Posts: 602	Ray, Is the taste the same as the more "classically" shaped Goose Creek?

July 18, 2012	#10
Riceloft Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Parma, Ohio (6a) Posts: 299	Goose Creek is definitely on my "to try" list for next season.

July 19, 2012	#13
Fusion_power Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Alabama Posts: 2,250	I've grown Goose Creek for several years now and have always had pink fruits between 2 and 4 ounces. They are consistent but in my opinion, flavor is never as good as other varieties I grow. DarJones

July 20, 2012	#15
sprtsguy76 Tomatovillian™ Join Date: May 2007 Location: Santa Clara CA Posts: 1,125	Wow 2-4 oz? Mine usually run from 4-8 oz with an ocasional 8-12 oz. Just curious what was your seed source? I got my original seed from Ray. Damon