Member discussion regarding the methods, varieties and merits of growing tomatoes.
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February 16, 2006 | #1 |
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What is the story on 'Wes'?
I've grown this wonderful tomato for several years now and there's nothing on it's history in the SSE Yearbook...except that it seems that Carolyn sent out seeds in '96.
I got an email today asking for it's history and am clueless...what is the story? |
February 16, 2006 | #2 |
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I don't there there is a known history
See what Carolyn says here: http://www.tomatoville.com/viewtopic.php?t=332
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February 16, 2006 | #3 |
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Melody, How pleased I am to see you here. I am thankful to you for sharing this great tomato with me in 2003. Information I have is the following:
Wes Seed were shared by Robert Richardson with Carolyn Male. Carolyn says it is a wonderful meaty almost heart shaped variety she has grown for many years and shared seed thru SSE. Wes is reg leaf, indet. about 75-85 days and a winner. C. Male. Melody acquired her seed from Carolyn and shared them with G. Millwod 2003. |
February 17, 2006 | #4 |
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Thanks ya'll, I'll pass the info along.
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November 15, 2006 | #5 |
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I grew this one last year and I know these are early days but, gees, Wes is looking like a big fruitsetter... again. I really like this plant. Hey, I'll go so far as to say: hardy and exceptional.
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November 15, 2006 | #6 |
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It **is** exceptional Grub, both taste and production-wise.
And just noting the above where it said I sent out seeds in 1996, that's probably when I first listed it at SSE. My last large seed offer was at GW in the Winter/Spring of I think 2004/05 and I think I had it on that list then, as one of the fresh seeds amongst the older seeds, or it could have been that second offer I made in 2005/06...oh heck, I can't remember. All I know is that there were two seed offers with a total of about 300 varieties offered between the two offers. Anyhoo, there are three varieties that I felt needed much wider distribution and I included them with my SSE requests sent out and also with others I sent seeds to that were non-SSE members. Those three varieties are: Wes Red Penna Chapman And I've made the point before that while many folks seem to go ga ga for anything new that shows up, which got so bad that I even refused to comment on new ones that I liked b'c this or that person would then beg for seeds online b/c that's what they were there for it seems, that there are many many superb varieties that have been listed in the SSE Yearbooks for years that seem to get overlooked b'c they don't reach commercial places. And no, Robert Richardson never did share with me any history of Wes, and I have no idea if he had any info. Methinks that if he did he would have.
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November 15, 2006 | #7 |
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I received Wes seeds this year in trade ...
I HAD my garden planned for 2007... I HAD it planned until now ! lol ~ Looks like Wes needs a spot ! wow ~ I need so much more room than I have ... ~ Tom
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November 15, 2006 | #8 |
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I'm dying here trying to decide where to put them all.
I had thought about growing some corn as an experiment. I guess not! If I stretch it, I can grow 26, maybe 28 tomato plants.
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November 15, 2006 | #9 |
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The perfect backyard is the one that gives you the most pleasure. Thus, do what you enjoy doing with your space.
For me, that means annual reclamation of the grass. What is more, I am about to remove the old clothes line from the backyard and, yes, make more room With petrol or gas prices the way they are, and transport costs adding considerably to the high price of crap commercial fruit and veg, it's more enjoyable than ever growing your own. And do try Wes. I will show you in a few months why If my memory serves me correctly, I think someone else, maybe Brucey babe, didn't hit it off with Wes. Maybe my seeds are better. I don't know. But it's a great plant and I can still remember the great taste from last year. And Wes and Prue and German Red Strawberry make great neighbours in a spot that’s not hammered by the afternoon sun. |
November 15, 2006 | #10 |
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I know I know ...
I'm starting to agree with Spud ... The lawn I can handle ... its the pool that needs to be filled in ... Just wondering how the misses is going to take the news ... Instead of a bikini , shes gonna need long pants, a sun hat and garden gloves ! lol ~ ~ Tom
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November 15, 2006 | #11 |
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Instead of a bikini , shes gonna need long pants,
a sun hat and garden gloves ! lol ~ And why not if she really loves you, for to love you is to love your tomato growing enterprise. A few weeks ago I found THAT picture of me in my purple, pink dotted bikini and don't ask what year it was taken. I'm using it as one of my incentives, along with buying clothes too small for me now, to lose this last 45# to get down to that same weight but Lord knows it would take about 100K in cosmetic surgery to change me back to anything even resembling that picture. As we age everything goes south and I'm nearing the Antarctic on that score. But losing about 100# in about a year and a half isn't half bad either, really.
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November 15, 2006 | #12 |
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Wes gave me my biggest tomato this year at 2.86#, plus 2 more over 1.5#. Total yield was 19.4# from my one plant. Taste was much better than the other 2 hearts I grew, Anna Russian and Kosovo.
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November 16, 2006 | #13 |
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Tom,
Don’t drain the pool!!!!! Use the thing for an Aztec floating garden it’s called a Chinampa. They say you could get about 6 crops a year from the things. I’m going start mixing charcoal into the dirt myself. Here they are. http://www.su.edu/faculty/steabo/two...griculture.htm |
November 16, 2006 | #14 |
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Carolyn - congrats !
It takes alot of stength to do what you're doing ~ My fiance and I have alot of fun gardening together ... It works out great because I can grow food and she can cook it really well ... This was the first season that we kept a journal of our "standouts" , and she participated lovingly ~ lol ~ (I get alittle obsessive, nooooo me ??? ~ lol ~ ) Now I just need to squeeze Wes on my list without giving up too much of the "eye-candy" ~ lol ~ I'm kidding, I'm kidding , I know too much suns bad for you ~ Tom
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November 21, 2006 | #15 |
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Dr. C...if you headed down South....please stop off in Athens, GA....on ya trip. you might jus decide...a way....we could trade out a little Southern comfort, for a little Northern genuine...brookie Trout....)))
In all fun w/you, Carolyn...))) VGary...Man i hate to say it...ya see...i use wood heat, thats just about all i need (plus a nice Quilt)...an....Wes seeds came up so pretty...but one mornin, i thought they needed a little bottom heat.....an Then....i forgot what i had thought, earlier...))) fortunately...thru pure Luck....another Trader an i hooked up, an so i am anxious to strike out upon the Wes highway....again....my friend...))) But ill never forget...origins...))) TY...))) Truly hopin...i can an will become....jus one more grower, that Loves a Wes....this comin season.
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