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Old March 20, 2016   #1
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Default Big Beef F1

I see this tomato on many grow lists. I would like to try it, but am not sure when I find it. I can usually find plants locally that say "Big Beef", and I can find seeds online that say the same thing. I never seem to find any that specify that it is the F1 hybrid. Are all "Big Beef" plants the same or are there different ones?
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Old March 20, 2016   #2
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Old March 20, 2016   #3
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Thank you. I am still wondering if there are different ones. I am starting my seeds today and I might just pick a plant locally if any Big Beef is the same. If not, will order.
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I would guess that any plants you see at any big box stores or mainstream garden centers would be the F1, as Big Beef is a really popular hybrid variety, and those types of stores generally are positive on hybrids because their customers are also positive on the advertised vigor and disease resistance of hybrids.

I think I've seen a "dehybridized" OP version on Gary Ibsen's store, but that's the only place I've seen it aside from seed swap lists and such.
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I agree with Gorbelly. Assume that big box plants are F1.
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Old March 20, 2016   #6
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OK, so the assumption is that commercial sources would not be selling any F2 Hybrids or dehybridized versions that would not be true to the original. Good to know, thank you. I am already about 5 days late starting my seeds this year due to my work schedule, and I hoped to start a little earlier. But even if I can just get them into the garden a little earlier, and slightly smaller, I would consider it a win.
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I already have seeds for Beefsteak. Would you pick Big Beef or Beefsteak, assuming you could only pick one, for taste and productivity? I have never tried either one.
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I would grow Big Beef.

Anyone selling "Beefsteak" is selling a brand, not a variety.

I wouldn't grow a tomato called "Heirloom" either.
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There is also Big Beef OP around. I bought some last year by mistake.
Look for "Hybrid" on the name tag.

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Burpee has free shipping today. Code is FS77.
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Old March 20, 2016   #11
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Beefsteak, when used as a specific variety, is Crimson Cushion. It is one of my least favorite varieties. I have known a lot of people who have bought those ten cent seed packs of it. I have never seen any tomatoes from the plants.

Big Beef OP was a dud for me, too.

Big Beef F1 is my favorite hybrid variety. I have seen other market vendors label plants for sale as "Beef," which is confusing, I know.
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Beefsteak, when used as a specific variety, is Crimson Cushion. It is one of my least favorite varieties. I have known a lot of people who have bought those ten cent seed packs of it. I have never seen any tomatoes from the plants.

Big Beef OP was a dud for me, too.

Big Beef F1 is my favorite hybrid variety. I have seen other market vendors label plants for sale as "Beef," which is confusing, I know.
I had one of each, F1 and OP, last year.
OP turned out to be Det and real dud. I pulled it out.
This year I am growing from seed.
To make the things more interesting, I am also growing Better Boy and Big Boy.

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Sue, I have fresh Big Beef F1 seed, PM me and we can work out a trade.
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I can't say enough about Big Beef F1 (see other BB thread). If you plant it they will come....
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Another plus about Big Beef is that it is earlier than mid season. DTM OF 65 to 75 Or about 100 to 110 days from germination.

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