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April 6, 2016 | #1 |
Tomatovillian™
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UV lights to wean plants?
Has anybody ever tried using UV lights(the kind that give you a sunburn) on plants to wean them to the outdoor sunlight?
I lose a lot of plants each year in the indoor to outdoor transition. |
April 6, 2016 | #2 |
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I've had that idea, but never tried it. I think you would want to run them on a timer when you're not around, for the sake of your own health.
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April 6, 2016 | #3 |
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Why do you lose plants every year in the indoor/outdoor transition? That hasn't happened to me ad I actually am not all *that* careful about it aside from the first 2 days or so...
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April 6, 2016 | #5 |
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I third the question on how you loose plants. I only loose them in the transition if the cats try to lay on them. If I put a chair over them then the cats lay on the chair instead.
I put them on my east facing porch, so they are out of wind, only get east morning light, and generally do fine there until I get them in the ground. |
April 6, 2016 | #6 |
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lost a betterboy last week as a matter of fact and heirloom cuttings..
we had warm days and I left the plants outdoors too long. Now they are just dead sticks. |
April 7, 2016 | #7 |
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I stopped losing plants when I switched to hardening off under a canopy of 6 mil or thicker plastic. The plastic absorbs the UV light so that they can adapt without getting sunburned... I just make sure that the sides of the canopy are open, so that I don't bake the seedlings.
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April 7, 2016 | #8 |
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2 years ago I had plants under a glass lean-to against the garage,but mice ate the plants down to the stalks and they croaked(the plants,not the mice unfortunately).
Sometimes I pitch a tent under cheesecloth,but that gets tedious and expensive. Somebody should invent a sun blocker to spray on,just for plants. |
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The longer you wait the longer it takes for this to happen due to the strength of the sun becoming stronger. Also putting them in the shade fir a bit each day helps. Find a spot that only gets about 2 hours or less of direct sun and then shade. Sun blocker wont do any good because the plant would never get used to the sun. Worth |
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April 9, 2016 | #11 |
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I wonder how mature the plants are when moved outside for those who do and don't experience loss of plants during the in to out transition.
That said. I just finished building a fluorescent lighting setup in my basement (now used for a chestnut and a few bur oak seedlings that can't go out quite yet) that I could use for testing since I've got a couple black-light bulbs of the right format to fit.
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April 19, 2016 | #12 |
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I'd point more to what light you're using to start them. There really shouldn't be that much shock.
The last couple years I've been starting under a four-lamp T8 fixture a couple inches above the babies. Nothing special about the lamps - two 6500K and two 4600K (5400K?). At about 4 inches or so I move them into the Texas sun for a half hour, wait a day, then an hour. Maybe four reps, then they get full sun. NO incidence of sunburn this year, though they did get wilty for a couple weeks. Now, I'm growing in containers. If you're in ground then a week of reps before into the ground. Shade is probably a good thing for a while. But my point is, whatever you're using for light before they go outside probably isn't good enough. You should not be seeing plant death from exposure shock. Dennis
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