Member discussion regarding the methods, varieties and merits of growing tomatoes.
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April 10, 2018 | #1 |
Tomatovillian™
Join Date: Feb 2018
Location: Plainfield Illinois
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How deep is too deep
Hello,
I was discussing planting tomatoes deep to a couple of coworkers today and one of them said they think I'm planting too deep. A little background. I have roughly 15 plants growing. I started them from seed in a seed starting tray. Once they outgrew that, I placed them in the bottom 3rd of a 1 gal pot. As they grew, I placed more dirt in the pot and clipped off the lower branches. I now am transplanting them into 5 gal grow bags. They look awesome and he roots are growing wonderful. I planned on doing this until it's warm enough to plant outside. So the question is, if done graduall8, can you plant too deep? |
April 10, 2018 | #2 |
Tomatovillian™
Join Date: Mar 2017
Location: Central Texas - Zone 8A
Posts: 196
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How deep is too deep
I do virtually the same thing (including removing leafs to reveal more stem to bury) just on a smaller version (seed tray, small cup, 1 gal pot) as my seedlings progress before plant out. I use the extra re potting to apply mycorrhizae each time which also helps root growth. I don’t see any problem with what you’re doing.
I wouldn’t go bury the first cluster of fruits, but besides that I say plant them deep. I have, and have had no issues. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk |
April 10, 2018 | #3 |
Tomatovillian™
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: Connecticut
Posts: 1,460
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I don't think they know what they are talking about. If the plants are healthy and growing and putting out roots, what is the problem? Ask them what happens if you plant "too deep" and how they determine how deep is too deep. Doubt they can answer but It would be interesting to see. The only thing you might be doing is slowing down top growth as they concentrate on putting out more roots, but you also could end up with much sturdier plants with more extensive root systems that will be much better at feeding the plant as it grows. Gee that sounds awful.
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April 10, 2018 | #4 |
Tomatovillian™
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: Connecticut
Posts: 1,460
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OK, I take that back. If there are no green leaves showing, you are planting them too deep.
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April 10, 2018 | #5 |
Tomatovillian™
Join Date: Feb 2018
Location: Plainfield Illinois
Posts: 17
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Lol they have leaves haha
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April 11, 2018 | #6 | |
Tomatovillian™
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Wichita Falls, Texas
Posts: 4,832
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Planting deeper tends to depend on where you are at and your weather, too. I sometimes plant more deeply, into cooler soil as here, In north Texas, we get seriously hot and dry both. Tomatoes generally like heat, but there is a point for everything. People make those choices and what works for some wil not be so great for all. Some years, I tend to plant my back-ups or fall crop tomatoes more deeply than my earlier ones as the temperatures here climb into the 100's plus, and I am planting in the ground. |
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April 10, 2018 | #7 |
Tomatovillian™
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: Pewaukee, Wisconsin
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Those plants look absolutely beautiful. I would keep gradually filling them up to the top but stop going any deeper there so that your first blossoms will not be laying their fruits on the soil. You don't want to lose your first flowers nor do you want fruit on the ground. Explain to your coworkers that the plants develop roots on their stems if the stems are in contact with the soil. Big roots = big healthy plants.
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April 10, 2018 | #8 |
Tomatovillian™
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: Atlanta, Georgia
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I don't think you can plant too deep in a pot, but in the ground, every inch down is cooler soil. I prefer the trench approach rather than going straight down to keep the roots in the warmer soils.
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April 10, 2018 | #9 | |
Tomatovillian™
Join Date: Feb 2018
Location: Plainfield Illinois
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Thank you all for all your comments. This is my first time growing from seed and I want to make sure I do everything the best I can. I would hate to lose all this hard work and have to buy from the big box this year. |
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April 10, 2018 | #10 |
BANNED FOR LIFE
Join Date: May 2014
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I don't see how you could grow them too deep in the way you have described.
I agree with Scott - if you were growing them in the ground - a whole lot of other things come into play. |
April 11, 2018 | #11 |
Tomatovillian™
Join Date: Feb 2015
Location: NC - zone 8a - heat zone 7
Posts: 4,919
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I don,t think that planting too deep has benefits. The roots themselve should go as deep as necessary. Good soil is usually on the top portion in the garden.that is where the root system will grow better. Plus, if you plant too deep in a soil that does not have good drainage (clay soil ) then there will be a risk of water logging
I personally burry up to a bit above cot leaves , even when/if they are lanky.
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April 11, 2018 | #12 |
Tomatovillian™
Join Date: Jan 2014
Location: Near Philadelphia, PA
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In the garden (raised beds) I tend to plant leggy ones on their side like Scott - but I lay the plants down a few days ahead so they naturally turn up 90 degrees before planting so I am not trying to bend the stem too much - too many broke on me before I started doing that! I think having the roots closer to the surface helps them get nutrients and air, but it might make them a bit more sensitive if we have a drought. (BTW, am in PA, not further South!)
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April 11, 2018 | #13 |
Tomatovillian™
Join Date: Jan 2018
Location: Philly 7A
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From the picture you posted, if I was gong to plant them right away, I would plant them about an inch from the lowest sturdy stem.
If you are not ready to plant I would top the soil to about an inch below the lowest sturdy stem and plant at the same soil level when planting out. Those are definitely not leggy and don't need trenching. |
April 11, 2018 | #14 |
Tomatovillian™
Join Date: Apr 2011
Location: Burton, TX
Posts: 294
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Maybe put them a little closer to the lights till planting time--6 to 8 inches away should be good as long as there are no incandescent lts. involved.
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April 11, 2018 | #15 |
Tomatovillian™
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: MA
Posts: 4,971
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15" deep on a 14" plant does it for me.
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