Has anyone seen this in a seedling before?

Woodenzoo · April 20, 2007

The single 'thing' in lower cell is an Ashleigh seedling...

It seems to be one solid mass, not two leaves stuck together. It was a late starter so is smaller than the seedlings in the back cell...
I guess it will eventually die...
Has anyone seen this type of thing before? Any info?
Thanks!
Cathy

johno · April 20, 2007

Yes. I see them occasionally. I have a couple right now, and I was curious if they would ever develop. So far they haven't died...

**carolyn137** · April 20, 2007

Over the years I've seen them several times. And you wait and wait for central growth and sometimes you see a nubbin appear, but I think it's best to put the poor thing out of its misery and hold a wee funeral for it as compassionately as you can.

Fusion_power · April 21, 2007

It might help to tell why this occurs. What you are looking at is the result of a stick tight seed coat. The seed coat was bound so tightly to the cotyledons that it choked them off including the growing point. The stem has enough chlorophyll to maintain growth up to a point. but without a bud, it is doomed.

Sometimes these occur where only the cotyledons are cut. If so, the growing bud is still intact and can produce a stem. I had this happen on an Orange Bell pepper plant this year. It is now a very healthy seedling ready to transplant into the garden.

Fusion

**carolyn137** · April 21, 2007

It might help to tell why this occurs. What you are looking at is the result of a stick tight seed coat. The seed coat was bound so tightly to the cotyledons that it choked them off including the growing point. The stem has enough chlorophyll to maintain growth up to a point. but without a bud, it is doomed.

*****

Fusion, I've had it happen when there's been no problem at all with the seed coat sticking.

Keith once explained that it's a developmental problem.

So I guess there are at least two ways, then, that it can happen.

elkwc36 · April 21, 2007

Carolyn,
Glad you cleared that up as I had one this year come up that way and the seed coat was gone. And they were planted shallow so know it didn't take long to emerge. Had me wondering till you replied how the seed coat caused it. Thanks Jay

Woodenzoo · April 24, 2007

Here's a picture from today...
(Same seedling)

Not the greatest shot, but the leaf on the right side isn't as 'stiff' looking or malformed as it appears in the photo.
I guess we'll be letting this one do it's own thing and see what that might be. I just couldn't 'do away with it' and when I asked my son to, he said no, he's not killing anything either!

Oh and lookie there! Another Ashleigh seedling with a stuck seed coat!

Now I'm off to check out the rest of TV and then to transplant some maters that are long over due!
Thanks for the information everyone and I'll let you know how this thing grows.
Cathy

April 20, 2007	#1
Woodenzoo Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Ohio z6 Posts: 141	Has anyone seen this in a seedling before? The single 'thing' in lower cell is an Ashleigh seedling... It seems to be one solid mass, not two leaves stuck together. It was a late starter so is smaller than the seedlings in the back cell... I guess it will eventually die... Has anyone seen this type of thing before? Any info? Thanks! Cathy

April 20, 2007	#3
carolyn137 Moderator Emeritus Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Upstate NY, zone 4b/5a Posts: 21,169	Over the years I've seen them several times. And you wait and wait for central growth and sometimes you see a nubbin appear, but I think it's best to put the poor thing out of its misery and hold a wee funeral for it as compassionately as you can. __________________ Carolyn

April 21, 2007	#5
carolyn137 Moderator Emeritus Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Upstate NY, zone 4b/5a Posts: 21,169	It might help to tell why this occurs. What you are looking at is the result of a stick tight seed coat. The seed coat was bound so tightly to the cotyledons that it choked them off including the growing point. The stem has enough chlorophyll to maintain growth up to a point. but without a bud, it is doomed. ***** Fusion, I've had it happen when there's been no problem at all with the seed coat sticking. Keith once explained that it's a developmental problem. So I guess there are at least two ways, then, that it can happen. __________________ Carolyn

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April 20, 2007	#2
johno Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Arkansas zone 6b Posts: 441	Yes. I see them occasionally. I have a couple right now, and I was curious if they would ever develop. So far they haven't died...

April 21, 2007	#4
Fusion_power Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Alabama Posts: 2,250	It might help to tell why this occurs. What you are looking at is the result of a stick tight seed coat. The seed coat was bound so tightly to the cotyledons that it choked them off including the growing point. The stem has enough chlorophyll to maintain growth up to a point. but without a bud, it is doomed. Sometimes these occur where only the cotyledons are cut. If so, the growing bud is still intact and can produce a stem. I had this happen on an Orange Bell pepper plant this year. It is now a very healthy seedling ready to transplant into the garden. Fusion

April 21, 2007	#6
elkwc36 Tomatovillian™ Join Date: May 2006 Location: SW Kansas Posts: 339	Carolyn, Glad you cleared that up as I had one this year come up that way and the seed coat was gone. And they were planted shallow so know it didn't take long to emerge. Had me wondering till you replied how the seed coat caused it. Thanks Jay

April 24, 2007	#7
Woodenzoo Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Ohio z6 Posts: 141	Here's a picture from today... (Same seedling) Not the greatest shot, but the leaf on the right side isn't as 'stiff' looking or malformed as it appears in the photo. I guess we'll be letting this one do it's own thing and see what that might be. I just couldn't 'do away with it' and when I asked my son to, he said no, he's not killing anything either! Oh and lookie there! Another Ashleigh seedling with a stuck seed coat! Now I'm off to check out the rest of TV and then to transplant some maters that are long over due! Thanks for the information everyone and I'll let you know how this thing grows. Cathy