Project: Brandywine x Neves Azorean Red

Tomstrees · April 6, 2008

I am working on a really cool cross for a good friend.

Bill Jeffers (PapaVic) asked me for some Neves Azorean Red seeds a couple years ago. I sent them and he grew it out. In the same season, he noticed a really productive Brandywine (from Livingston Seed Co.) and crossed it with Neves to "build a better tomatoer".

He mailed me some F1 seeds, so last season, I grew it out (RL) - it produced some great tasting maters (outstanding for being pot bound), and this year in the F2's I have 3 RL's and 2 PL.
So we know the cross took.

Bunch of other folks got some F2's as well.

Should be fun!

~ Tom

**carolyn137** · April 6, 2008

http://forums.gardenweb.com/forums/l...468381.html?13

Tom, you and others in on this project might take a look at the above thread where quite a few folks are reporting on that cross and where Bill has shown some pictures that might be helpful to others working on the same project.

Bill sent me some F1 seeds knowing my interest in NAR for sure, and I'll be growing a plant this summer, rather, Freda will.

When I said I'd be behind most others as to F2 seed Bill offered to send me some but my list is already set for this summer and I just can't fit in any more since I can grow so few plants these days and I have many many all new ones and they have first priority.

Just curious, but the NAR seeds you sent to Bill, were they from plants you grew from seeds from me? Matters not, really, but if I have children out there I'd like to recognize them and maybe put them in my will I have to make this summer.

Tomstrees · April 6, 2008

lol Carolyn - too funny; take it easy up there!

My NAR came from a guy named Don (but I forget which one).
A Don from the GW dayz, which doesn't narrow it down much...
But when I was first on and met everyone at GW I was trading like mad ...
Luckily for my new wife (and lawn), my seed trading has slowed to be only what I "need" (yeah right)...
I'm building a new raised bed this spring and have it drawn out already...
(Gosh do I love F2's)

Carolyn - do you see what you have created ???!!

On another note, I'm happy to report that I have 4 RL NAR X
and 2 PL NAR X - I'm going to grow out 1 of each.

~ Tom

amideutch · April 7, 2008

TT, I'm growing both 2ea F1's and 1ea PL and 1ea RL of the F2
which I got from PV as well. It will be a hoot and I'll update this thread with info and pics as the season progreses from the other side of the pond.

Ami

Tomstrees · April 7, 2008

Ami !!! Good deal !!! I can't wait to see the progress !!!

By the way - my best friend just got back from Germany after living there for a month - said he found the girl of his dreams; and wants to live there permanently!!!

~ Tom

amideutch · April 8, 2008

TT, tell your friend I can relate to that. Been there,done that and still doin it after 36 years.

Ami

**Lee** · August 19, 2008

Definitely looking good Tom!

Lee

Tomstrees · August 19, 2008

cool right ? Its the largest we've ever grown!

~ Tom

amideutch · August 19, 2008

Holy Geez, I see it know. Man that thing looks like it's on steroids. You been feeding them seaweed again havn't you?
Anyway the reason I didn't see it the first time was I was at work and I can't see photo's from "Photo Bucket" or similar providers as they are blocked due to DOD policy. Now what plant did it come from, RL or PL and when you going to cut that baby in half and show her off. And taste report please. Ami

Tomstrees · August 19, 2008

lol ~ nope - no seaweed this season! (lazy) ; and I do not fertilize my plants throughout the growing season. My patch gets amended with compost every fall: that's it.

Ami, I have 2 F2 plants: 1 PL plant and 1 RL plant -

I've only harvested fruit and have posted any ripe maters pics from the RL which is a 7ft monster with 50-60 1lb (average) fruit size. Yes its red.

The flavor and disease tolerance are outstanding.

The PL F2 is only 4ft tall has a few fruit on it - HOWEVER - it is growing in a 5 gallon pot ... Not sure whats going on with the PL in regards to flavor yet.

~ Tom

ps. slicer pics to come

Mantis · August 22, 2008

That baby must have needed nearly half a tin of wax

amideutch · October 23, 2008

The painting was done by a friend of my brothers wife. My wife likes Marc Chagall and I came across a book about him in a used book store that had all his paintings. I picked this one and asked if he could paint it as I had seen his work which was fantastic. Even though he was not into these type of paintings he agreed to give it a try. Bottom line is the more he worked on the copy the more he got into it. In the end he was so engrossed in the work he even copied Chagalls signature. Didn't notice till I took it to get framed and the store owner brought it to my attention. Ami

**carolyn137** · October 24, 2008

Ami, tell your wife I'm another Marc Chagall person and as I recall the painting that your friend copied is called "Joy to the World".

rnewste · October 24, 2008

Just picked today, NAR on the left, and Brandywine x NAR on the right. Seeds courtesy of Tomstrees.

To my taste buds, I prefer the Brandywine x NAR over the NAR. Will be growing it again in 2009 from these saved seeds.

Ray

Tomstrees · November 14, 2008

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To my taste buds, I prefer the Brandywine x NAR over the NAR. Will be growing it again in 2009 from these saved seeds.

Ray

Really have to thank Bill (Papavic) for this cross: a proven winner in my book !

April 6, 2008	#1
Tomstrees Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: NJ Bayshore Posts: 3,848	Project: Brandywine x Neves Azorean Red I am working on a really cool cross for a good friend. Bill Jeffers (PapaVic) asked me for some Neves Azorean Red seeds a couple years ago. I sent them and he grew it out. In the same season, he noticed a really productive Brandywine (from Livingston Seed Co.) and crossed it with Neves to "build a better tomatoer". He mailed me some F1 seeds, so last season, I grew it out (RL) - it produced some great tasting maters (outstanding for being pot bound), and this year in the F2's I have 3 RL's and 2 PL. So we know the cross took. Bunch of other folks got some F2's as well. Should be fun! ~ Tom __________________ My green thumb came only as a result of the mistakes I made while learning to see things from the plant's point of view. ~ H. Fred Ale

April 6, 2008	#2
carolyn137 Moderator Emeritus Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Upstate NY, zone 4b/5a Posts: 21,169	http://forums.gardenweb.com/forums/l...468381.html?13 Tom, you and others in on this project might take a look at the above thread where quite a few folks are reporting on that cross and where Bill has shown some pictures that might be helpful to others working on the same project. Bill sent me some F1 seeds knowing my interest in NAR for sure, and I'll be growing a plant this summer, rather, Freda will. When I said I'd be behind most others as to F2 seed Bill offered to send me some but my list is already set for this summer and I just can't fit in any more since I can grow so few plants these days and I have many many all new ones and they have first priority. Just curious, but the NAR seeds you sent to Bill, were they from plants you grew from seeds from me? Matters not, really, but if I have children out there I'd like to recognize them and maybe put them in my will I have to make this summer. __________________ Carolyn

April 6, 2008	#3
Tomstrees Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: NJ Bayshore Posts: 3,848	lol Carolyn - too funny; take it easy up there! My NAR came from a guy named Don (but I forget which one). A Don from the GW dayz, which doesn't narrow it down much... But when I was first on and met everyone at GW I was trading like mad ... Luckily for my new wife (and lawn), my seed trading has slowed to be only what I "need" (yeah right)... I'm building a new raised bed this spring and have it drawn out already... (Gosh do I love F2's) Carolyn - do you see what you have created ???!! On another note, I'm happy to report that I have 4 RL NAR X and 2 PL NAR X - I'm going to grow out 1 of each. ~ Tom __________________ My green thumb came only as a result of the mistakes I made while learning to see things from the plant's point of view. ~ H. Fred Ale

April 7, 2008	#4
amideutch Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Germany 49°26"N 07°36"E Posts: 5,041	TT, I'm growing both 2ea F1's and 1ea PL and 1ea RL of the F2 which I got from PV as well. It will be a hoot and I'll update this thread with info and pics as the season progreses from the other side of the pond. Ami __________________ Life's journey is not to arrive at the grave safely in a well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out, shouting ‘...Holy Crap .....What a ride!'

April 7, 2008	#5
Tomstrees Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: NJ Bayshore Posts: 3,848	Ami !!! Good deal !!! I can't wait to see the progress !!! By the way - my best friend just got back from Germany after living there for a month - said he found the girl of his dreams; and wants to live there permanently!!! ~ Tom __________________ My green thumb came only as a result of the mistakes I made while learning to see things from the plant's point of view. ~ H. Fred Ale

April 8, 2008	#6
amideutch Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Germany 49°26"N 07°36"E Posts: 5,041	TT, tell your friend I can relate to that. Been there,done that and still doin it after 36 years. Ami __________________ Life's journey is not to arrive at the grave safely in a well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out, shouting ‘...Holy Crap .....What a ride!'

August 19, 2008	#7
Lee Tomatopalooza™ Moderator Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: NC-Zone 7 Posts: 2,188	Definitely looking good Tom! Lee __________________ Intelligence is knowing a tomato is a fruit. Wisdom is knowing not to put one in a fruit salad. Cuostralee - The best thing on sliced bread.

August 22, 2008	#11
Mantis Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Oz Posts: 1,241	That baby must have needed nearly half a tin of wax

October 23, 2008	#12
amideutch Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Germany 49°26"N 07°36"E Posts: 5,041	The painting was done by a friend of my brothers wife. My wife likes Marc Chagall and I came across a book about him in a used book store that had all his paintings. I picked this one and asked if he could paint it as I had seen his work which was fantastic. Even though he was not into these type of paintings he agreed to give it a try. Bottom line is the more he worked on the copy the more he got into it. In the end he was so engrossed in the work he even copied Chagalls signature. Didn't notice till I took it to get framed and the store owner brought it to my attention. Ami __________________ Life's journey is not to arrive at the grave safely in a well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out, shouting ‘...Holy Crap .....What a ride!'

October 24, 2008	#13
carolyn137 Moderator Emeritus Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Upstate NY, zone 4b/5a Posts: 21,169	Ami, tell your wife I'm another Marc Chagall person and as I recall the painting that your friend copied is called "Joy to the World". __________________ Carolyn

October 24, 2008	#14
rnewste Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Campbell, CA Posts: 4,064	Just picked today, NAR on the left, and Brandywine x NAR on the right. Seeds courtesy of Tomstrees. To my taste buds, I prefer the Brandywine x NAR over the NAR. Will be growing it again in 2009 from these saved seeds. Ray