Is this TSWV??

gssgarden · April 16, 2017

I saw similar pics on Lee's post.
Saw it first time this morn. Going to get Daconil on it asap!
OR should I pull it!

It's a Aunt Ruby's German Green!!

Greg

ginger2778 · April 16, 2017

Sure could be. Do you see any thrips?

gssgarden · April 16, 2017

No, I don't.

ginger2778 · April 16, 2017

Thrips are the vector for TSWV. They like the blossoms.

gssgarden · April 16, 2017

I looked and the plant is bug free. Had one green gnat-ish bug on it but it got squished!
No buds on it Marsha. Only been in the ground 2 weeks. She's still young.

Greg

ginger2778 · April 16, 2017

Might be a bacterial thing. Copper spray is good for bacterial as well as fungal.

b54red · April 16, 2017

If the plant is that young and it is TSWV then it won't be around for long. It does look like TSWV to me but it could be something else. Give it a spray as Marsha recommended because it won't hurt and it might help if it isn't TSWV.

If the plant just stops growing and the rust keeps spreading then it is pretty likely to be TSWV and a young plant just doesn't have a chance once it gets infected so pulling it is the safer thing to do. I have one right now that I am keeping an eye on for TSWV.

Just because you don't see thrips doesn't mean they weren't there two weeks ago. Usually when I see a bunch of thrips I don't see any TSWV for at least two weeks before the first symptoms occur. I have only seen one wave of thrips so far this spring but I'm sure more will be coming.

One thing I have noticed is that tomato plants with a lighter green foliage tend to get TSWV more often than the varieties with the darker green foliage. I get some plants hit by TSWV every year and I haven't found any way to stop them. I just grow a lot of plants so losing 10 to 20 percent of them doesn't really hurt me other than my feelings. I can't remember the last year I lost less than 10% of the plants I set out. I hope this year will be on the low side since the aphids seem to be as bad as I have ever seen on my peppers this year and there is a weird scarcity of lady bugs this spring. They were everywhere before that late hard freeze came in here a couple of weeks ago but I have only seen one this past week. I hope some of her friends show up soon.

Bill

OzoneNY · April 25, 2017

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Originally Posted by ginger2778

Might be a bacterial thing. Copper spray is good for bacterial as well as fungal.

+1

I have thrips every year in the past 4 years. I have also had TSWV and that does not look like TSWV

Im no expert but it looks bacterial or fungal. Is that discoloration on the surface of the leaves or is it in the leaves?

gssgarden · April 16, 2017

Thanks Bill. Will keep an eye on it and prob make a decision to pull her in the next day or so. Sprayed store mixed copper spray a couple days ago, decided to spray Daconil on it today. We'll see!

Greg

ginger2778 · April 17, 2017

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Originally Posted by gssgarden

Thanks Bill. Will keep an eye on it and prob make a decision to pull her in the next day or so. Sprayed store mixed copper spray a couple days ago, decided to spray Daconil on it today. We'll see!

Greg

Greg, when in doubt pull it out. Don't risk it.

Dewayne mater · May 11, 2017

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Originally Posted by ginger2778

Greg, when in doubt pull it out. Don't risk it.

I know you are a proponent of yellow sticky traps. I've been using them this year. How long are they good? Also, I'm seeing thrips on YST, in that case, do you spray as well? If so, what do you spray. I'm liking the traps and seeing a variety of trapped insects, ranging neutral to harmful. Glad to get em!

heirloomtomaguy · April 16, 2017

I would yank that sucker and dust the entire garden/yard/neighbors property with DE. If in fact it is TSWV it will spread like wildfire and killing the source as in the thrips is the only way to possibly contain it. I have had it before and it is ugly wiped out the whole patch.

shelleybean · April 17, 2017

It does look like TSWV but I'd keep an eye on it for a couple of days. Is it at the top of the plant? That's where it first shows up for me, then spreads downward very rapidly. As others have suggested, yes, spray and see if it helps. If it starts to move to other branches, pull it. When we have an especially mild winter that might not kill the thrips, I always have some back up plants a few weeks younger to fill in what i have to pull. I wish you luck.

Gerardo · April 19, 2017

Looks like it, rip ARGG

b54red · April 20, 2017

The one that I was keeping an eye on has TSWV. The definite symptoms showed this morning so I will probably be pulling it soon though it does have a decent small tomato on it now so if it looks like it is holding up okay I may leave it for a while. I do not have that overwhelming fear of it spreading due to an infected plant in the garden. In my experience with TSWV it seems like I get waves of thrips for a couple of days then two or three weeks later I see some infected plants. This seems to happen several times a season but I haven't seen any increase in infection due to leaving a plant or two in the garden after affirming they are infected with TSWV. No matter what I do I know before the season even starts that I will lose plants to TSWV. So far my percentage of plants infected is lower than normal but just saying that is asking for trouble.

Bill

April 16, 2017	#12
heirloomtomaguy Tomatovillian™ Join Date: May 2013 Location: glendora ca Posts: 2,560	I would yank that sucker and dust the entire garden/yard/neighbors property with DE. If in fact it is TSWV it will spread like wildfire and killing the source as in the thrips is the only way to possibly contain it. I have had it before and it is ugly wiped out the whole patch. __________________ “Enter by the narrow gate; for wide is the gate and broad is the way that leads to destruction, and there are many who go in by it. Because narrow is the gate and difficult is the way which leads to life, and there are few who find it."

April 17, 2017	#13
shelleybean Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Virginia Beach Posts: 2,648	It does look like TSWV but I'd keep an eye on it for a couple of days. Is it at the top of the plant? That's where it first shows up for me, then spreads downward very rapidly. As others have suggested, yes, spray and see if it helps. If it starts to move to other branches, pull it. When we have an especially mild winter that might not kill the thrips, I always have some back up plants a few weeks younger to fill in what i have to pull. I wish you luck. __________________ Michele

April 16, 2017	#2
ginger2778 Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Plantation, Florida zone 10 Posts: 9,283	Sure could be. Do you see any thrips?

April 16, 2017	#3
gssgarden Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: N.C. Posts: 1,827	No, I don't.

April 16, 2017	#7
b54red Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Alabama Posts: 7,068	If the plant is that young and it is TSWV then it won't be around for long. It does look like TSWV to me but it could be something else. Give it a spray as Marsha recommended because it won't hurt and it might help if it isn't TSWV. If the plant just stops growing and the rust keeps spreading then it is pretty likely to be TSWV and a young plant just doesn't have a chance once it gets infected so pulling it is the safer thing to do. I have one right now that I am keeping an eye on for TSWV. Just because you don't see thrips doesn't mean they weren't there two weeks ago. Usually when I see a bunch of thrips I don't see any TSWV for at least two weeks before the first symptoms occur. I have only seen one wave of thrips so far this spring but I'm sure more will be coming. One thing I have noticed is that tomato plants with a lighter green foliage tend to get TSWV more often than the varieties with the darker green foliage. I get some plants hit by TSWV every year and I haven't found any way to stop them. I just grow a lot of plants so losing 10 to 20 percent of them doesn't really hurt me other than my feelings. I can't remember the last year I lost less than 10% of the plants I set out. I hope this year will be on the low side since the aphids seem to be as bad as I have ever seen on my peppers this year and there is a weird scarcity of lady bugs this spring. They were everywhere before that late hard freeze came in here a couple of weeks ago but I have only seen one this past week. I hope some of her friends show up soon. Bill

April 19, 2017	#14
Gerardo Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Feb 2015 Location: San Diego-Tijuana Posts: 2,598	Looks like it, rip ARGG

April 20, 2017	#15
b54red Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Alabama Posts: 7,068	The one that I was keeping an eye on has TSWV. The definite symptoms showed this morning so I will probably be pulling it soon though it does have a decent small tomato on it now so if it looks like it is holding up okay I may leave it for a while. I do not have that overwhelming fear of it spreading due to an infected plant in the garden. In my experience with TSWV it seems like I get waves of thrips for a couple of days then two or three weeks later I see some infected plants. This seems to happen several times a season but I haven't seen any increase in infection due to leaving a plant or two in the garden after affirming they are infected with TSWV. No matter what I do I know before the season even starts that I will lose plants to TSWV. So far my percentage of plants infected is lower than normal but just saying that is asking for trouble. Bill