Does anyone recognize this green bean?

mayax68 · May 21, 2019

I am just back from a trip to Spain and look what I found in about every supermarket. These things are a length of my hand plus to the elbow. They are flat and had no visible seeds. They tasted like any other green beens I grew, but the length was something else. Package says grown in Morocco. Does anyone know what variety this is and if seeds are available in US?

Gardenboy · May 21, 2019

Yes, It's a pole bean variety from France and Spain. My grandmother would bring them from Costa Rica when I was a kid. They are flat and can grow over 12 inches long. Typical pole bean taste but more rich and tender when cooked compared to our USA type of pole bean. Called Spanish Musica. Also known as Spanish Miralda. Here is a link you can read :

https://www.reneesgarden.com/product...spanish-musica

Tormato · May 25, 2019

The packet itself has your answer,

VARIEDAD: HELDA (variety: Helda)

DanishGardener · May 25, 2019

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tormato

The packet itself has your answer,

VARIEDAD: HELDA (variety: Helda)

https://www.thompson-morgan.com/p/cl...elda/gwd4740TM
http://www.territorialseed.com/produ...anic-bean-seed

You are right, just a plain old vulgaris.

Lots of seeds sources online.

Worth1 · May 25, 2019

What do the seeds/dried beans look like??

Tormato · May 25, 2019

White, medium sized, somewhat flat, not plump, kidney shape, if I remember correctly.

Perhaps I'll go digging through the hundreds of varieties in my collection, and find them, as it's getting close to planting season, here. I won't have a definite answer until about Tuesday.

Worth1 · May 25, 2019

So sort of like a small Lima bean maybe.

The reason I ask is some beans of the same variety have several names.
One of which is the cranberry bean.

DanishGardener · May 25, 2019

Runner Beans? (Phaseolus coccineus)
I know the countries in northern Africa produces a lot of those for the european market.

DanishGardener · May 25, 2019

https://www.mr-fothergills.co.uk/Veg...l#.XOnLCtMzZE4

https://www.rareseeds.com/benchmaster-runner-bean-/

oldman · May 27, 2019

it's a climbing French bean.

https://www.chilternseeds.co.uk/item...g_french_helda

mayax68 · May 31, 2019

Thank you all

May 21, 2019	#2
Gardenboy Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: Fort Lauderdale, FL Posts: 783	Spanish Musica Yes, It's a pole bean variety from France and Spain. My grandmother would bring them from Costa Rica when I was a kid. They are flat and can grow over 12 inches long. Typical pole bean taste but more rich and tender when cooked compared to our USA type of pole bean. Called Spanish Musica. Also known as Spanish Miralda. Here is a link you can read : https://www.reneesgarden.com/product...spanish-musica

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DanishGardener Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Denmark Posts: 328	Runner Beans? (Phaseolus coccineus) I know the countries in northern Africa produces a lot of those for the european market. __________________ Soren Last edited by DanishGardener; May 25, 2019 at 07:07 PM.

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DanishGardener Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Denmark Posts: 328	https://www.mr-fothergills.co.uk/Veg...l#.XOnLCtMzZE4 https://www.rareseeds.com/benchmaster-runner-bean-/ __________________ Soren

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mayax68 Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: USA, CT Posts: 106	Thank you Thank you all

May 25, 2019	#3
Tormato Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: MA Posts: 4,971	The packet itself has your answer, VARIEDAD: HELDA (variety: Helda)

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Worth1 Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Den of Drunken Fools Posts: 38,539	What do the seeds/dried beans look like??

May 27, 2019	#10
oldman Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Jan 2014 Location: Kansas 5b Posts: 198	it's a climbing French bean. https://www.chilternseeds.co.uk/item...g_french_helda