F2 seed offer

[frogsleap farm]

I am looking for partners in growing out several F2 populations next year. I have seed of the following:

Bloody Butcher x Violet Jasper
KBX x Green Zebra
NARX F3 x PBTD
NARX F3 x Pink Furry Boar
NARX F3 x Violet Jasper
NARX F3 x B&B Boar
NARX F3 x Scabitha
NARX F3 x ZebraHeart
NARXBolseno F2 x BTD
NARXBolseno F2 x BTD
SpudGiant F2 x Goose Creek
SpudGiant F2 x BTD
SpudGiant F2 x Scabitha
Stupice x Green Copia
SunSugar F1 x Green Copia
Wagner T-4 x Dora
Violet Jasper x Momotaro F1

NARX, NARXBolseno and SpudGiant (Spudakee x Novikov's Giant) were from Bill Jeffers.
Wagner T-4 was an Tom Wagner striped/waxy line I got from SSE
Parents in italic font were PL. F1 phenotypes were as expected with faint striping in most cases.

There are no restictions on use of the seed, other than I'd like to recieve back F3 seed of anything striped or otherwise interesting. I have enough seed to share ~15 seeds of each with 4-5 partners.

[freelancer79d]

I will help you out. PM sent.

[Bama mater]

I may try one PM sent

[GunnarSK]

I'd be very interested in growing F2s of Bloody Butcher x Violet Jasper (or any cross with Violet Jasper) and Wagner T-4 x Dora.
I'll give you feedback and F3 seed of anything interesting. Of course if you decide to send seed all the way to Poland, I'll send you my address in a PM.

[carolyn137]

Mark, how I'd love to grow out some of those crosses but as it is it looks like I'm going to have to regrow almost all of the latest new ones I had this past season where I had no fruits or few fruits, and the folks in NC helping with seed production didn't have a very good year either.

And I have very limited space now for tomatoes since they're grown in the back yard in gro-bags, not in the fields where I had unlimited room.

So I'll sit back and wait for something interesting to turn up with the NAR crosses since I think NAR has been the best of the tomato kids I've introduced to date and I have an quasi-emotional attachment to it.

[frogsleap farm]

Originally Posted by GunnarSK

I'd be very interested in growing F2s of Bloody Butcher x Violet Jasper (or any cross with Violet Jasper) and Wagner T-4 x Dora.
I'll give you feedback and F3 seed of anything interesting. Of course if you decide to send seed all the way to Poland, I'll send you my address in a PM.

PM me your address and I'll send to Poland

[dustdevil]

Hi. I'd like to grow KBX x Green Zebra, SpudGiant F2 x Goose Creek,
Wagner T-4 x Dora, NARX F3 x PBTD and SpudGiant F2 x BTD. PM sent.

[ContainerTed]

PM sent. Let me know

Ted

[Tom Wagner]

Interesting group of F-2 families going out. Seem as if 10 or 11 of those have ancestry back to some of my breeding lines. I won't list how, but since I know the origin of many of the parents, it nonetheless makes me smile.

The offer of F-2 seeds reiterates the potential fun of looking for intriguing recombinants. I am thinking of putting a list together myself this winter of F-2 lines for folks to try.

[carolyn137]

Originally Posted by Tom Wagner

Interesting group of F-2 families going out. Seem as if 10 or 11 of those have ancestry back to some of my breeding lines. I won't list how, but since I know the origin of many of the parents, it nonetheless makes me smile.

The offer of F-2 seeds reiterates the potential fun of looking for intriguing recombinants. I am thinking of putting a list together myself this winter of F-2 lines for folks to try.

Tom, looking at individual parents in those crosses I think the following stand alone from anything you might have bred:

KBX
Anything NAR-ish
Goose Creek
BTD, and the other Brad Gates ones noted
Scabitha
Stupice
SunSugar F1
Dora
Momotaro F1

But I do see Green Zebra as one parent in one cross and Zebra Heart in another cross and off hand I don't know what's behind Violet Jasper and few others.

I love the new cherry called Green Zebra Cherry but it's nothing like Green Zebra at all taste-wiseand I think it was called that b'c superficially it resembles the typical striping of GZ. Found in a box of mixed cherries by Manfred Hahm in Germany.

[Lee]

Originally Posted by carolyn137

Tom, looking at individual parents in those crosses I think the following stand alone from anything you might have bred:

KBX
Anything NAR-ish
Goose Creek
BTD, and the other Brad Gates ones noted
Scabitha
Stupice
SunSugar F1
Dora
Momotaro F1

But I do see Green Zebra as one parent in one cross and Zebra Heart in another cross and off hand I don't know what's behind Violet Jasper and few others.

I suspect Tom's referring to all of the crosses with B. Gate's creations that all
came from Green Zebra at some point in time.


Is there any criteria or goals to look for from these crosses other than the
stripes you mentioned?
It'll be interesting to see what comes of this growout.


Lee

[carolyn137]

I suspect Tom's referring to all of the crosses with B. Gate's creations that all
came from Green Zebra at some point in time.

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Actually I thought I just answered your post Lee, but it looks like it didn't post, no doubt b'c I just returned from the eye surgeon and my eyes are still dilated so who knws where that post ended up. .

Lee, you're absolutely right, I totally forgot how many of Brad's varieties originated with Green Zebra. I keep telling Brad that he gets so many crosses b'c he's growing his tomatoes atop a nuclear waste dump but he stoutly maintains that's not true.

[frogsleap farm]

Is there any criteria or goals to look for from these crosses other than the
stripes you mentioned?
It'll be interesting to see what comes of this growout.


Lee

Lee - I grew 18 F2 plants from the cross Purple Haze x BTD this summer and found an amazing kaleidoscope of fruit colors (skin and flesh), with and without stripes - many with exceptional taste. My primary criteria is always taste, with emphasis on something that is also nice to look at.

[frogsleap farm]

Originally Posted by Tom Wagner

Interesting group of F-2 families going out. Seem as if 10 or 11 of those have ancestry back to some of my breeding lines. I won't list how, but since I know the origin of many of the parents, it nonetheless makes me smile.

The offer of F-2 seeds reiterates the potential fun of looking for intriguing recombinants. I am thinking of putting a list together myself this winter of F-2 lines for folks to try.

Tom - yes, your fingerprints are evident here. Thanks to you, Brad and PV for getting me into this.

[frogsleap farm]

Great news. I will get back to each of you and start sending seed out next week sometime.