Scarlet runner beans.

Worth1 · January 23, 2016

Scarlet runner beans I know they have been talked about here before someplace but I cant find it.
Thinking of finding some and planting them in the front for show and the critters.
What is your experience and in what type of soil.
In good soil how long (Vines)could I expect them to get?

Worth

PNW_D · January 23, 2016

mine used to grow up into the nearby hazelnut tree ....... very long vines, but slow to set here in PNW

January 23, 2016

Runner beans don't set beans in my climate- 2 years ago I grew one from Park's -I think it was named Stardust--it made beautiful vines with huge foliage and blossoms--not one bean! I posted asking what was wrong and someone said runner beans only set in cool summers-which ain't here!

Worth1 · January 23, 2016

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Originally Posted by JoParrott

Runner beans don't set beans in my climate- 2 years ago I grew one from Park's -I think it was named Stardust--it made beautiful vines with huge foliage and blossoms--not one bean! I posted asking what was wrong and someone said runner beans only set in cool summers-which ain't here!

There is also from what I have heard too much nitrogen that causes this.
I dont buy this to a point.
I think it is an imbalance of fertilizer.
My reasoning behind this is I planted pole beans last year and the soil was hammered with nitrogen plus everything else.
I had a good crop.
Worth

January 23, 2016

I also don't agree on too much nitrogen- because I grew Kwintus pole beans close to the runner beans, and got a great harvest--- I don't supplement my soil with nitrogen, so I know that wasn't the problem. I looked back to some of my posts on Dave's Garden Forum--I received several replies that runner beans need cool, humid summers to set beans. Coming from 3 different people I tend to agree.

Worth1 · January 23, 2016

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Originally Posted by JoParrott

I also don't agree on too much nitrogen- because I grew Kwintus pole beans close to the runner beans, and got a great harvest--- I don't supplement my soil with nitrogen, so I know that wasn't the problem. I looked back to some of my posts on Dave's Garden Forum--I received several replies that runner beans need cool, humid summers to set beans. Coming from 3 different people I tend to agree.

Thanks for the info.
It doesn't look like it would do well for me.

Worth

Worth1 · January 23, 2016

I just did a wee bit of looking on line, not gonna happen.

One of the problems is people say they come from Mexico and bla bla.
Well Mexico isn't all desert hot and dry.

I will look for some sort of cow pea or yard long bean to grow like I did one year.
I need something to fill in my arbor and I want a big bean Teepee in the front yard.
Worth

Tracydr · April 30, 2016

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Originally Posted by Worth1

I just did a wee bit of looking on line, not gonna happen.

One of the problems is people say they come from Mexico and bla bla.
Well Mexico isn't all desert hot and dry.

I will look for some sort of cow pea or yard long bean to grow like I did one year.
I need something to fill in my arbor and I want a big bean Teepee in the front yard.
Worth

I can send you some hyacinth beans. They loved Phoenix.

Zeedman · May 1, 2016

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Originally Posted by Worth1

I just did a wee bit of looking on line, not gonna happen.

One of the problems is people say they come from Mexico and bla bla.
Well Mexico isn't all desert hot and dry.

I will look for some sort of cow pea or yard long bean to grow like I did one year.
I need something to fill in my arbor and I want a big bean Teepee in the front yard.
Worth

Have you ever considered sword bean for that arbor? Huge vines, beautiful sweetly-scented flowers, and enormous eye-catching pods. Kitazawa sells two varieties.

KarenO · January 23, 2016

hmmm scarlet runner beans grow well here. maybe 12 feet, lots of red blossoms that attract hummingbirds and bees. Very attractive and the beans are delicious, very large but delicious eaten under say 10".
I think they would grow well for you. they are from the mountains in central America but also are known to be grown commercially in north Africa and Greece according to wiki.
never know til you try. They are very ornamental as well as edible.
I have also grown a Dutch variety with white seed and white blooms. very similar.
KarenO

Worth1 · January 23, 2016

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Originally Posted by KarenO

hmmm scarlet runner beans grow well here. maybe 12 feet, lots of red blossoms that attract hummingbirds and bees. Very attractive and the beans are delicious, very large but delicious eaten under say 10".
I think they would grow well for you. they are from the mountains in central America but also are known to be grown commercially in north Africa and Greece according to wiki.
never know til you try. They are very ornamental as well as edible.
I have also grown a Dutch variety with white seed and white blooms. very similar.
KarenO

If I run across some I am going to give them a try anyway.
It wont be the first time I grew something I wasn't supposed to be able to grow.

I still have a volunteer pinto bean plant growing in the yard.

Worth

PNW_D · January 23, 2016

didn't know this .........

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Unlike snap beans, runner beans require pollination by bees to set seed.

https://www.westcoastseeds.com/shop/...er-bean-seeds/

PhilaGardener · January 23, 2016

How about Chinese red noodle beans (Vigna)? Very vigorous for me (topped an 8-9 foot trellis), seemed to love the heat, and good in stir fries. Glad to share some seed (a few years old now) if you PM your mailing address, Worth!

Worth1 · January 23, 2016

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Originally Posted by PhilaGardener

How about Chinese red noodle beans (Vigna)? Very vigorous for me (topped an 8-9 foot trellis), seemed to love the heat, and good in stir fries. Glad to share some seed (a few years old now) if you PM your mailing address, Worth!

Thanks for the offer but I am swamped in beans.
I still have to figure out where I am going to plant some roman type beans from south America.

Worth

Redbaron · January 23, 2016

Why not the Hyacinth Bean for you Worth? It is also an ornamental perennial, edible and vining. Very much like the scarlet runner, but it is a more tropical plant.

January 23, 2016	#1
Worth1 Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Den of Drunken Fools Posts: 38,539	Scarlet runner beans. Scarlet runner beans I know they have been talked about here before someplace but I cant find it. Thinking of finding some and planting them in the front for show and the critters. What is your experience and in what type of soil. In good soil how long (Vines)could I expect them to get? Worth

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PNW_D Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: West Coast, Canada Posts: 961	mine used to grow up into the nearby hazelnut tree ....... very long vines, but slow to set here in PNW __________________ D.

January 23, 2016	#15
Redbaron Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: Oklahoma Posts: 4,488	Why not the Hyacinth Bean for you Worth? It is also an ornamental perennial, edible and vining. Very much like the scarlet runner, but it is a more tropical plant. __________________ Scott AKA The Redbaron "Permaculture is a philosophy of working with, rather than against nature; of protracted & thoughtful observation rather than protracted & thoughtless labour; & of looking at plants & animals in all their functions, rather than treating any area as a single-product system." Bill Mollison co-founder of permaculture

January 23, 2016	#3
JoParrott Guest Posts: n/a	Runner beans don't set beans in my climate- 2 years ago I grew one from Park's -I think it was named Stardust--it made beautiful vines with huge foliage and blossoms--not one bean! I posted asking what was wrong and someone said runner beans only set in cool summers-which ain't here!

January 23, 2016	#10
KarenO Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: Vancouver Island Posts: 5,931	hmmm scarlet runner beans grow well here. maybe 12 feet, lots of red blossoms that attract hummingbirds and bees. Very attractive and the beans are delicious, very large but delicious eaten under say 10". I think they would grow well for you. they are from the mountains in central America but also are known to be grown commercially in north Africa and Greece according to wiki. never know til you try. They are very ornamental as well as edible. I have also grown a Dutch variety with white seed and white blooms. very similar. KarenO

January 23, 2016	#13
PhilaGardener Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Jan 2014 Location: Near Philadelphia, PA Posts: 1,940	How about Chinese red noodle beans (Vigna)? Very vigorous for me (topped an 8-9 foot trellis), seemed to love the heat, and good in stir fries. Glad to share some seed (a few years old now) if you PM your mailing address, Worth!