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Old March 20, 2020   #1
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sigh. Ive tried several methods to start peppers over a few years. All poor results.

What has worked for you ?
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Old March 21, 2020   #2
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Not a chile head but I've had better luck with the media, heat and watering pepper growing tips at www.ecoseeds.com


Reduced peat media, 80-85 temps, reduced watering than is intuitive. I also like to pretreat the media with peroxide
the day before sowing seed
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Old March 15, 2021   #3
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Not a chile head but I've had better luck with the media, heat and watering pepper growing tips at www.ecoseeds.com


Reduced peat media, 80-85 temps, reduced watering than is intuitive. I also like to pretreat the media with peroxide
the day before sowing seed

Try a seed starting mix that has some heft to it. I used Miracle Grow which was my only choice to have shipped locally. It contains bark/compost and does not appear as peaty as Jiffy.

One of my potting mixes is suspect of being a fungus gnat source. Not fun hosting them inside the home. I've seen the larvae squirm around thru a lens and did a root wash when the plants were small. Something to consider monitoring if you notice gnats. They just went into the up-potted final containers and are doing well , especially since they were able to go outside for a few days when the weather was unusually warm. Still have fungus gnats that come and go though.
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heat mats. very seldom do I have seeds germinate off the heat mat. I have a tray thats been sitting all winter in the greenhouse and I see a few more have popped just sitting on the bench. which just shocked me. but over watering white they are seeds often kills them from fungus or mold growing on the seed shells.
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I'll put the pepper seeds in a cotton cloth and soak that one. I put it in a closed box and put it in the heat, 24 ° C for sweet peppers, 28 ° C for hot. I watch it and when most are sprouted, I drop them in cups.
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I was the same, until I decided to germinate them on my heater (so intermittent upto 40-50C I guess) in wet paper towels. Ideally you would put it on a heat mat but this also seems to work fine, I get germination in about 5-8 days now, and then I put them in the soil, where it takes like 3 days to emerge.
You just need to keep them wet, and that's it, now germination is clearly faster and also better rates.
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So far I see two factors to change.

Treat seed with hydrogen peroxide for one minute. And..
Use distilled water, not well water.

Will try again.

Thank you everyone!!
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You are using a sterile seed starting mix I hope? don't use soil. whatever medium you use it must be sterile.
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best, and fastest results i have had was starting seeds on top of a cast iron steam radiator we had in the upstairs bedroom. there was a wood shelf on top of the radiator that i put a towel on top of before putting the cell pack with planted seeds. peppers were
usually up within 7 days.

second best is placing planted seeds on a tray over in floor heat vent elevated on each end with some books, so the room would still be heated.
variation is placing seeds in front of heat vent if the vent is at the base of a wall. i usually had the seed tray in a plastic bag to prevent drying out or would put a sheet of plastic wrap over the top of the seed tray.

what i do now, is start seeds underneath our wood stove that we heat with during the winter. its warm enough without cooking the seeds. germination is slower, but most everything sprouts thats going to sprout.
i use sterile seed mix kept moist, but not soaking wet.
lightly cover the seeds with seed starter.
on top of the hot water heater is often a good place to provide bottom heat.
our basement isn't heated however, and temps are only in the mid 40s during the winter
and early spring down there, so i am not confident in starting seeds downstairs.


every year i seem to have mixed results. some varieties, every seed will sprout, other varieties nothing, fresh seeds to boot. germination rates tend to decrease once pepper seeds are 4 to 5 yrs old.

oh, we have well water. thats all we use.



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Old March 24, 2020   #10
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question.

What to use for watering ?? The pepper experts mention do not use tap water because of chlorine and not use well water due to high minerals.....my well water is highly mineralized. Seems like some well water might work.

Its raining....is rain water best ??

I dont think getting to a store to buy a soiless mix is an option right now given the obvious. Have this:

Collected very aged compost, added perlite. Plan to cook it in oven to sterilize.

Anyone see a problem with this?
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I've started tomato and peppers in a paper towell placed in a baggie and in a warm dark spot (behind wine bottles on the kitchen counter) in the kitchen. they seem to like 70-80 deg f.
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My seeds get soggy and rot using papertowel method.
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Use freshest seeds possible? Older seeds do not germinate as well.
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/Given all the great sugestions, will try the following.

Well aged compost from my horses ( manure and shavings), add perlite about 25%by volume. Heat in oven and cool. Actually, soil and half of perlite heat treated. About 50% perlite for good drainage.

36 cell tray. new. Yes, used new tray and new inserts.

peroxide seed. Forgot this step.

soak seed in dilute miracle grow plant fertilizer. forgot this step.

put on cover

heating pad.....cooler nite temp??maybe too difficult to manage with current supplies and my personal time

allow longer time for germination.

find distilled water. Got a gallon. The
--Miracle-Gro® "Bloom Booster" 15-30-15 not available. Got Schultz Bloom Plus 10-54-10

Followed old methods and wetted soil with tap water. swutching to obe tabkespoon Schultz to one fal distilled water. Watering in the seed.

Planted about 1/4 inch with 50% perlite compost mix.

put on incubator.

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I use little salad dressing containers with a coffee filter, water, heating mat and a snap top.
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