Texas Pink

[Salsacharley]

The manager of a local growers market where I am a vendor was raving about a wonderful tomato another vendor had "developed", and had named "Atrisco Pink". I was curious, so I went over and bought a couple of the Atrisco Pink tomatoes from the vendor.

I took the tomatoes home and took pictures and tasted them. WOW! What a magnificent tomato!

I was compelled to find out more about how this tomato was developed, so this week I inquired of the vendor how he had developed the Atrisco Pink.

The bottom line is that he didn't develop the tomato. He got the seeds from an elderly woman who told him it was called Texas Pink. The vendor decided to name the tomato Atrisco Pink because his farm is in the Atrisco area of Albuquerque's south valley. So much for the thought of a marvelous new tomato....however, I must say that this tomato is marvelous, and its heritage evidently is classic heirloom, from what I can gather. I don't know why it isn't more discussed because it is wonderful in appearance and taste.

[Labradors2]

It sure does look Purdy!

Linda

[peppero]

[QUOTE=Labradors2;428802]It sure does look Purdy!

No argument on that assessment!

jon

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[carolyn137]

It can't be better known unless folks know about it and it looks right now you are the only one who does know about it.

So if you could get more fruits from him and save the seeds you could make a seed offer here this Fall.

Or you could send me some seeds that my seed producers could work with next summer for a seed offer in 2016 since someone is taking over for me, and two of my seed producers are listed SSE members, and if they like it they could SSE list it.

And if they like it and I have seeds I could send it to a few seed sites I know for trial and that would get it out there as well.

So think about the above options, and more than one could work out well, your choice.

Carolyn

[ginger2778]

Originally Posted by carolyn137

It can't be better known unless folks know about it and it looks right now you are the only one who does know about it.

So if you could get more fruits from him and save the seeds you could make a seed offer here this Fall.

Or you could send me some seeds that my seed producers could work with next summer for a seed offer in 2016 since someone is taking over for me, and two of my seed producers are listed SSE members, and if they like it they could SSE list it.

And if they like it and I have seeds I could send it to a few seed sites I know for trial and that would get it out there as well.

So think about the above options, and more than one could work out well, your choice.

Carolyn

I bet a bunch of us want to know this Carolyn. Please tell us who is going to take over? If you feel it is OK that is.

[carolyn137]

Originally Posted by ginger2778

I bet a bunch of us want to know this Carolyn. Please tell us who is going to take over? If you feel it is OK that is.

I've mentioned it in several posts over the past couple of months, but not the details as to user name of person and all that.

Since it's two years down the road no sense in giving details now and the fact is that he and I have to work out lots of details.

What I can say is that he is retiring at the end of next June, we've exchanged information on various levels, and more importantly he wants to do it.

My job will still be to find varieties new to all or most b'c I have those contacts outside the US and of course there are always folks here at TV who send me new ones when they send their SASE's for my seed offer.

It's time for someone to take over since I've been making large seed offers for over 20 years now at one place or another.And for this last one I said I wasn't going to stay up half the night to send back my address and then pack up seeds ASAP, so I ended up getting e-mails from a few folks asking where their seeds were, and not all did it nicely.

I retired from teaching in June of 1999 and now I'm retiring from making seed offers by myself at the end of my next seed offer next Jan.

I'll no doubt put up the germination thread b'c many find that helpful,, especially when someone gets 100 % germination with a variety and someone else with the same seeds gets zero. And I'll put up the Fall feedback thread since many also find that very valuable in terms of worthy new varieties to consider for a future year.

Carolyn

[Tracydr]

Originally Posted by carolyn137

I've mentioned it in several posts over the past couple of months, but not the details as to user name of person and all that.

Since it's two years down the road no sense in giving details now and the fact is that he and I have to work out lots of details.

What I can say is that he is retiring at the end of next June, we've exchanged information on various levels, and more importantly he wants to do it.

My job will still be to find varieties new to all or most b'c I have those contacts outside the US and of course there are always folks here at TV who send me new ones when they send their SASE's for my seed offer.

It's time for someone to take over since I've been making large seed offers for over 20 years now at one place or another.And for this last one I said I wasn't going to stay up half the night to send back my address and then pack up seeds ASAP, so I ended up getting e-mails from a few folks asking where their seeds were, and not all did it nicely.

I retired from teaching in June of 1999 and now I'm retiring from making seed offers by myself at the end of my next seed offer next Jan.

I'll no doubt put up the germination thread b'c many find that helpful,, especially when someone gets 100 % germination with a variety and someone else with the same seeds gets zero. And I'll put up the Fall feedback thread since many also find that very valuable in terms of worthy new varieties to consider for a future year.

Carolyn

I know how that feels when people aren't nice and you're doing something for free.
I was once standing a stallion. I nominated him for two free services for my club's fundraiser. Next year, I was shipped from OK to WA. I called the people getting discounted breedings through the club's auction to let them know that their cost didn't include collection services and shipping, which total rubs around $250, for a National Champion with some other extremely difficult to earn rankings and titles. They were both so nasty that I ended up deciding to castrate him and get out of anything to do with the stallion business.

[Salsacharley]

According to Tania's site, Texas Pink is already in SSE.

http://t.tatianastomatobase.com/wiki/Texas_Pink


There are no pictures, but the description is pretty close to what I have. The Texas Pinks at this market are nowhere near 1 lb each. I would say they average about 1/2 lb each. That difference could be the environment, but there isn't any way I know of to confirm that the tomato I have is a true descendent of the original Texas Pink.

I'll get more of them this week and save a bunch of seeds because it is a great tomato on its own merits.

Charley

[carolyn137]

Originally Posted by Salsacharley

According to Tania's site, Texas Pink is already in SSE.

http://t.tatianastomatobase.com/wiki/Texas_Pink


There are no pictures, but the description is pretty close to what I have. The Texas Pinks at this market are nowhere near 1 lb each. I would say they average about 1/2 lb each. That difference could be the environment, but there isn't any way I know of to confirm that the tomato I have is a true descendent of the original Texas Pink.

I'll get more of them this week and save a bunch of seeds because it is a great tomato on its own merits.

Charley

Charley, I totally forgot to check Tania's site and one of the comments is from Neil in IL who was one of the first to get the seeds in 1996 and I just looked in my 2014 SSE Yearbook and he's still offering it.

Neil is one of my four regular seed producers and is also a member here at TV, but doesn't visit that often. Is there anything you would like me to ask him?

Yes, in the SSE YEarbooks, to date,but not in the public catalog for both SSE and non SSE members.

Carolyn

[Salsacharley]

I've got an EPB with green fruit right now, and hopefully there will be some ripe this week. If so, I'll do a side-by-side comparison with the Texas Pink and the Eva Purple Ball. I'll also try and find out more about the lady that the Atrisco vendor got the TP seeds from.

By the way, the Atrisco vendor is surprisingly ignorant about tomatoes. He told me he grows two 50 ft rows of Texas Pink spaced 1 to 1 1/2 ft apart, and tied up on twine between T poles. I asked him if the plant was indeterminate and he had no idea what I meant, but he said it produces fruit continuously (after I asked). I asked him if the crowding of the plants didn't cause disease and he said if a plant gets disease he just leaves it completely alone...no removing, pruning, harvesting or anything. He thinks it causes less damage to just let it die in its place.

I can attest to his growing prowess because the rest of his vegetables are beautiful as is the Texas Pink. I know he had no greedy or malicious intent on renaming the tomato. He just isn't aware of the consequences of doing so.

Charley

[JLJ_]

Originally Posted by Salsacharley

. . . I can attest to his growing prowess because the rest of his vegetables are beautiful as is the Texas Pink. I know he had no greedy or malicious intent on renaming the tomato. He just isn't aware of the consequences of doing so.

Charley

And considering the cases when it appears that great big corporations that do know better have renamed tomatoes, one can hardly blame a local grower for doing so.

[carolyn137]

Originally Posted by Salsacharley

I've got an EPB with green fruit right now, and hopefully there will be some ripe this week. If so, I'll do a side-by-side comparison with the Texas Pink and the Eva Purple Ball. I'll also try and find out more about the lady that the Atrisco vendor got the TP seeds from.

By the way, the Atrisco vendor is surprisingly ignorant about tomatoes. He told me he grows two 50 ft rows of Texas Pink spaced 1 to 1 1/2 ft apart, and tied up on twine between T poles. I asked him if the plant was indeterminate and he had no idea what I meant, but he said it produces fruit continuously (after I asked). I asked him if the crowding of the plants didn't cause disease and he said if a plant gets disease he just leaves it completely alone...no removing, pruning, harvesting or anything. He thinks it causes less damage to just let it die in its place.

I can attest to his growing prowess because the rest of his vegetables are beautiful as is the Texas Pink. I know he had no greedy or malicious intent on renaming the tomato. He just isn't aware of the consequences of doing so.

Charley

I'm glad you are growing EPB this summer so you can make that comparison, and also that you'll ask where the seeds come from.

And I've listed quite a few varieties in my SSE listings and alsoin my seed offers where a family kept growing a variety, the original name was lost so they renamed it.

Jean's Prize was one of them, renamed that b'c she won so many contests with it at a local church fair,

http://tatianastomatobase.com/wiki/Jean%27s_Prize

Carolyn

[Salsacharley]

As an update on the Texas Pink tomato, the grower told me that the woman he acquired the seeds from was named "Rochelle" (sp?) and she was from Texas, and she had been growing Texas Pink in the Atrisco area for the past 30 years.

Here is a side-by-side comparison between Texas Pink and Eva Purple Ball. The white mottling on my EPB is not as substantial as it is on the TP, but that could possibly be attributed to growing conditions. My EPB are in the small range (2.5 oz avg) while the TP average 4.4 oz., the larger one weighing 5 3/4 oz. They are quite similar. I won't present any conclusions because I am far from expert in such matters.

[retiree]

Hi Carolyn

The other one with the white stippling would be Redfield Beauty.

Neil G.

[carolyn137]

Originally Posted by retiree

Hi Carolyn

The other one with the white stippling would be Redfield Beauty.

Neil G.

Yes. I remembered and put tania's link in my faves but she doesn't show many pictures so I went ahead and saved a Google IMAGES of it as well, so here's both of them

http://t.tatianastomatobase.com:88/wiki/Redfield_Beauty


https://www.google.com/search?hl=en&...47.RImdOigXcXM

Not all are Redfield Beauty in the above link so you have to put your mouse over a picture, for hopefully an ID.

Neil, I'm sure it doesn't happen with you, but with me there's more of a lag time sometimes as I get older when trying to think of a variety name or a person's name.

Carolyn