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March 15, 2022 | #1 |
Tomatovillian™
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: Atlanta, Georgia
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Arghh!! 600 seedlings wiped out - what is going on?
Folks, In my 10th year of successful germination, my seedlings this year are destroyed by a mysterious death of the growing tip. The roots are fine - the stalks are straight, but the growing tips have died. See pic.
The only thing I did differently this year is wash the soil with hydrogen peroxide and mist the top with 50% HP solution to stop the dampening out problems I had last year. Could the hydrogen peroxide have done this? My first thought was heat from the lamps, but I use t12 flourescent bulbs and the heat was low, and the bulbs were not too close to the seedlings. |
March 15, 2022 | #2 |
Tomatovillian™
Join Date: Oct 2012
Location: Vancouver Island
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Yes. Most definately.
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March 15, 2022 | #3 |
Tomatovillian™
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Hampton, Virginia
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Yes Yes, Amen!!
I would never use hydrogen peroxide!!!!!
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March 15, 2022 | #4 |
Tomatovillian™
Join Date: Dec 2017
Location: Ústí nad Labem in the north of the Czech Republic
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Maximum concentration of hydrogen peroxide that can be used in gardening is, as far as I know, 3%. To be safe I use concentrations up to 1%. I soaked my seeds in HP before they went into the mix for half an hour and they are shooting fine. The problem is concentration, not HP in itself.
Milan HP |
March 15, 2022 | #5 |
Tomatovillian™
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: Cheektowaga, NY
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Ya, misting the seedlings with H2O2 must have done it.
For the same reason you treated the soil with H2O2 to kill pathogens you feared might be in the soil, H2O2 causes plant cell death in the tender seedlings. |
March 15, 2022 | #6 |
Tomatovillian™
Join Date: Aug 2021
Location: Coastal CT, zone 7a
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50% hydrogen peroxide is awfully strong!
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March 15, 2022 | #7 |
Tomatovillian™
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Location: virginia
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I think you may have been fine if you had just washed the soil like you did and did not spray. From what I read the main action and benefit of hydrogen peroxide is to the roots as it adds more oxygen. Spraying as Ray stated is usually used as a pesticide.
It is also possible as others said the mix was to strong. While I was reading I saw that tomato plants actually produce hydrogen peroxide as a defense mechanism. I had so many tabs open I lost that page Here is an experiment a high school student did https://csef.usc.edu/History/2013/Projects/J1717.pdf Last edited by seaeagle; March 15, 2022 at 03:11 PM. |
March 15, 2022 | #8 |
Tomatovillian™
Join Date: Dec 2017
Location: Metro Denver
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Ugh Scott...so sorry for your loss. It's not too late to start again, is it?
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March 15, 2022 | #9 |
Tomatovillian™
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: Atlanta, Georgia
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No, I re sowed last night - luckily, I had enough seeds. NO HP this time!!
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March 15, 2022 | #10 |
Tomatovillian™
Join Date: Dec 2017
Location: Detroit
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Hopefully, round two will be round one's redemption!
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March 15, 2022 | #11 |
Tomatovillian™
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Hampton, Virginia
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I am glad you had a backup. Do you have any Heirloom Buckwheat Seeds? I use it as a crop cover but had a customer who wanted seeds, and I did not save seeds they just come back each year. I found out today that it was also grown here in front of Fort Monroe in another location around 1964.
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March 15, 2022 | #12 |
Tomatovillian™
Join Date: Sep 2015
Location: NE Ohio
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I am also glad you had extra seeds. Those pictures were so sad.
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March 16, 2022 | #13 |
Tomatovillian™
Join Date: Jul 2013
Location: SE PA
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Hey, look, it worked. No damping off...
You are like me, you experiment with the whole tray. |
March 16, 2022 | #14 |
Tomatovillian™
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: MA
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Bummer, and I'm very sorry for your loss. It looks like it will only set you back about a week.
You called what you are starting seedlings in as "soil". My question is, are you starting seedlings in a so-called "soilless " mix (like a peat-based one) or something else? |
March 16, 2022 | #15 |
Tomatovillian™
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Erie, PA
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I use h2o2 for my seedlings always, to prevent damp off. A very weak solution. One and one half teaspoons of 3% h2o2 for one cup of water. 50% is way too much.
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