Making Lemonade?

crmauch · September 5, 2019

(i.e. if life hand you lemons...)

As some may remember, I've been interested in breeding a good tasting high beta-carotene paste tomato. What I thought would be my most interesting breeding line turned out a bit differently...

The cross was originally 97L97XOpalka, and the F1 was pretty much as expected. But my F2 was very different - They were all grape sized. I did a sort of 'mass' selection of seeds of 5 of the 8 plants (they were all very similar) I grew out 8 plants of the F3 this year. Here is a sample of what I got:

97L97xOpalkaF3.jpg

I saved the seed from the plant 3 as I felt it had the best flavor.

So I thought "Maybe a high beta grape wouldn't be too bad, the plants are healthy (no BER). My one concern at this point is it sets well, but only has about 5-6 fruit per cluster. is this enough for a cherry/grape type tomato?

Hunt-Grow-Cook · September 5, 2019

Have you grown Orange Icicle? A few of your selections look quite similar, albeit a little smaller. I grew it this season and really enjoyed the taste when fresh, would make a good sauce as well. My plant went down to disease pressure this year so I cant comment on productivity.

[QUOTE=crmauch;745388](i.e. if life hand you lemons...)

As some may remember, I've been interested in breeding a good tasting high beta-carotene paste tomato. What I thought would be my most interesting breeding line turned out a bit differently...

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crmauch · September 6, 2019

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Originally Posted by Hunt-Grow-Cook

Have you grown Orange Icicle? A few of your selections look quite similar, albeit a little smaller. I grew it this season and really enjoyed the taste when fresh, would make a good sauce as well. My plant went down to disease pressure this year so I cant comment on productivity.

Do you know if Orange Icicle is a beta-carotene tomato or a 'regular' orange? Many orange tomatoes are just a limited lycopene, while Jaune Flamme and 97L97 are high in beta-carotene.

davidj · September 7, 2019

There seems to be a lot of orange russian tomatoes that are high in beta-carotene. I tried some orange heart-shaped russian tomatoes this summer and most of them came with dark-orange-red flesh, rather than golden tangerine orange flesh. I'll take pictures and make a report here soon, some of them might be good candidates for your breeding project.

Strangely, I've grown Zolotoe Serdtse for 3 years and it has always came as a tangerine orange tomato for me, while it has been reported on this forum as a beta carotene orange tomato. Maybe I do not have the original strain.

David

bower · September 7, 2019

Those look nice Chris.

There's nothing wrong with unexpected side journeys, as long as they're also pleasing!

September 5, 2019	#1
crmauch Tomatovillian™ Join Date: May 2013 Location: Honey Brook, PA Zone 6b Posts: 399	Making Lemonade? (i.e. if life hand you lemons...) As some may remember, I've been interested in breeding a good tasting high beta-carotene paste tomato. What I thought would be my most interesting breeding line turned out a bit differently... The cross was originally 97L97XOpalka, and the F1 was pretty much as expected. But my F2 was very different - They were all grape sized. I did a sort of 'mass' selection of seeds of 5 of the 8 plants (they were all very similar) I grew out 8 plants of the F3 this year. Here is a sample of what I got: 97L97xOpalkaF3.jpg I saved the seed from the plant 3 as I felt it had the best flavor. So I thought "Maybe a high beta grape wouldn't be too bad, the plants are healthy (no BER). My one concern at this point is it sets well, but only has about 5-6 fruit per cluster. is this enough for a cherry/grape type tomato?

September 5, 2019	#2
Hunt-Grow-Cook Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Mar 2014 Location: Sacramento, CA Posts: 360	Have you grown Orange Icicle? A few of your selections look quite similar, albeit a little smaller. I grew it this season and really enjoyed the taste when fresh, would make a good sauce as well. My plant went down to disease pressure this year so I cant comment on productivity. [QUOTE=crmauch;745388](i.e. if life hand you lemons...) As some may remember, I've been interested in breeding a good tasting high beta-carotene paste tomato. What I thought would be my most interesting breeding line turned out a bit differently... QUOTE]

September 7, 2019	#4
davidj Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Aug 2016 Location: Québec Posts: 27	There seems to be a lot of orange russian tomatoes that are high in beta-carotene. I tried some orange heart-shaped russian tomatoes this summer and most of them came with dark-orange-red flesh, rather than golden tangerine orange flesh. I'll take pictures and make a report here soon, some of them might be good candidates for your breeding project. Strangely, I've grown Zolotoe Serdtse for 3 years and it has always came as a tangerine orange tomato for me, while it has been reported on this forum as a beta carotene orange tomato. Maybe I do not have the original strain. David

September 7, 2019	#5
bower Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Newfoundland, Canada Posts: 6,794	Those look nice Chris. There's nothing wrong with unexpected side journeys, as long as they're also pleasing!