General information and discussion about cultivating onions, garlic, shallots and leeks.
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Tomatovillian™
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I was in the garden this evening cleaning up and making compost piles and looking at the garlic that is chugging along while most everything else is still a seedling. Then I thought to myself, I wonder what Bower's looks like now. I wonder what North Carolina garlic looks like now. At least, I hope I thought it to myself. Hopefully I didn't pose those questions aloud to the dogs.
So, if you get a chance, go take a pic this weekend; nothing fancy necessary. Just a pic of your garlic fast-approaching mid-Spring. If you can also relate the approx planting and expected harvest time, that would perfect. There is something about garlic...to me, it seems very representative of that local climate. It can't be rushed with grow lights or transplants; it's very grounded. I know I just saw a recent picture of svalli's and I thought, wow it must be cold there! Which of course, I knew, it's Finland after all, but still! That looks like late February here! I would start, but of course I forgot to actually take pictures. Hopefully tomorrow in the rain I'll get a chance. I'll take pics of a couple patches plus some still walking around the back of the garden au natural. |
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Tomatovillian™
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: Newfoundland, Canada
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Hey JR.. One of the best things about T'ville for me is to see how different things are in other people's climate. So bring on the pics!
![]() Here's my pic of the porcelains which are up, taken from the window yesterday (I swear, they haven't grown a bit since then ![]() Just for reference, no crocus has bloomed here yet either. ![]() |
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Join Date: Mar 2014
Location: Mid-Atlantic right on the line of Zone 7a and 7b
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Planted 10/31 through 11/15.
Expected harvest around mid-June. Daffodils are done blooming. Redbuds are about faded. Crimson Clover is about to be in full bloom. Azaleas are nearing peak color. Dandelions are no longer yellow and are in seed puff ball stage now. That is Kodiak Brown Mustard in the walkways to prevent weeds and maybe get some wireworm prevention. I will have to mow it and incorporate it into the soil to make that happen though. IMG_1667.JPG IMG_1668.JPG IMG_1669.JPG IMG_1670.JPG IMG_1671.JPG Last edited by PureHarvest; April 26, 2019 at 10:43 AM. |
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Join Date: Jan 2016
Location: Vancouver Island Canada BC
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My garlic in pots was grouped for the winter but spread out now as the space is needed for other things. They will get one more move before they are done approximately mid June. One variety, Metechi grew stretched and skimpy in January. Not suitable for a mild winter such as the first part of ours was. I grow about 50 heads in potsdue to lack of ground space and most varieties do well.
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1,2,3 is the 6" raised bed I built a year and a half ago to corral the garlic that has been growing here since the late 1950's. They have 7 leaves, about 15" tall. Planted mid-Nov. I finally covered with 3-4" of wood chips in early January right before it got pretty cold. Most of wood chips were scraped back in early March. By then, only a few had penetrated the thinner areas and I got worried 4" of soggy chips was too much. This garlic will probably be ready mid-late June.
4 is the walking garlic, 10 feet away. That is the SW side of arbor vitae. This garlic is unthinned and bulbs would be small but otherwise it looks the same as the stuff I corralled. That is how it has grown for years, here, and I wanted to keep that patch just in case. It does not get mulched or anything. 5,6 is around the NW side of the house, so it gets only a little afternoon sun. I transplanted that from the walking stuff...I think 3 years back, now. It came up small that first season, and I didn't bother to dig any up. But again, now it pretty much looks like the rest of them. The bulbs would be small and clustered but the growth appears the same. 7,8 and 9,10 are little 3 ft plots I put over at the comm garden. * They did not go in until December, I believe.* These bulbs were second string. I was going to put in some more all along my border, and had forked it, but the weather turned or something and it never happened. These beds were forked and treated otherwise same as my main bed in the first pics, just planted a month later. They look about the same except most have 6 leaves instead of 7, and about 12" instead of 15". But this patch is also more exposed to wind, sun, and runoff and does not have the 6" raised box. EDIT: these were in fact planted in mid-Nov same as the main bed in pics 1 2 3. Only the late border planting was aborted due to weather. The size difference is due to location/smaller cloves. Last edited by JRinPA; April 26, 2019 at 02:04 PM. |
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Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Vaasa, Finland, latitude N 63°
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Great to see all the photos of garlic growth at the prime. In couple of months I and Bower will also have garlic at same stage.
Last week has been record warm here and all snow finally disappeared from our back yard. The garlic really spurted to growth in a week. Temperatures are now getting back to normal with some freezing nights in the forecast. My husband went out to the country today and sent me a photo of the garlic beds. I stayed home to work with the raised beds here in the city. I have some garlic growing in couple of them and I do also have garlic in Rootrainers for planting to field as soon as I can work the ground. The tallest ones in the Rootrainers were planted already at fall and buried in the raised bed for the winter, the other ones were planted in mid March. Sari
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Join Date: Feb 2018
Location: Augusta area, Georgia, 8a/7b
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Everybody's stuff is looking so good. I hate to spoil the parade of nice stuff but it was "come one, come all" so here's the pitiful garlic in my garden.
![]() I checked again yesterday and nothing is dividing yet even though the plants look like they're past ready. The rounds aren't even decent size yet. I'm just going to let them keep doing what they're doing and see what happens. At least the garlic's good for something. It kept the deer away from the broccoli...and the one cabbage whose seed somehow got into the broccoli packet! ![]() |
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Join Date: Jan 2014
Location: washington
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Here's my garlic, planted in late October, this is the first year in a long time that I've grown it. What do you think, does it look fairly decent? Why the yellow, any idea?
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Join Date: Jul 2013
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I think they look good to me. But how will they taste? Great, I hope.
We were here looking at some of these great pics everyone posted, and I was informed that my garlic pics (5,6) along the house in my post above was indeed planted 3 years ago - but that it was BULBILs, not summertime transplants. I was surprised, and immediately disagreed, but now I'm sure that is correct. There is a story there, but it must suffice that it does explain why they are still spaced fairly nicely after 3 years, and why I didn't see much that the year after we planted. The following three pics I took on Friday when I was over at the comm garden, but didn't post them. It is garlic from Agway, imported Chinese bulbs last I checked there, planted into freshly tilled ground last May. I don't believe that plot has been visited since July or August. I know it is garlic because I was at the garden when they planted it. I offered them some of mine in the form of big shovel clump 60ft transplants, so they could have garlic last year, but they declined. |
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xellos99, GrowingCoastal, svalli and all you growing in containers; what are the dimensions of your containers, do they stay in them the whole time, and what are you using for potting mix?
svalli is there a limit to how long they can stay in the rootrainers? I have tried Earthboxes a few times and it's always a fail. I think they stay too wet, even though I didn't water and I tried to keep them out of the rain. They go in around Thanksgiving, and I try to keep them green through May. It's usually 90 plus by then.I eventually transplanted them into gallon pots, but they look pretty sad. Last edited by Shrinkrap; April 28, 2019 at 11:22 PM. |
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I was surprised by the container growers, pretty neat. And I had never heard or rootrainers at all.
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I have garlic in my greenhouse too - bulbils and rounds in containers. I adjusted the spacing based on size of the bulbil or round and they all have at least a foot of depth, but I have never tried to grow full sized garlic in a pot.
As you can see, these are starting to get a bit floppy - that's because it gets really warm when the sun shines, but there's no wind to make them sturdy. And they are too far along to put them outdoors IMO where it is still freezing at night. I may have overwatered a bit, and then I saw moss or algae starting to grow on the surface, which tells me the pH is too acid - so I sprinkled quite a bit of lime and scratched it in. Some of the side leaves turned yellow when I did that. So now I'm not sure what I should do to keep them happy. I am not worried about it though. The same flopping over happened last year with the greenhouse bulbils I planted, and they stayed floppy when I put them out. I harvested them about the same time as outside rounds and the results were just fine. I do think there are so many causes for yellow leaves, you really can't know unless there's an obvious cause - too wet, too cold, too dry.... Shrinkrap in the case of those that you pulled, the 'pink root' is a disease associated with overwatering. So you may be right, they got too wet in the earthbox. |
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Mid-June seemed early when I reread my post above; last year mine was picked July 4th. I don't know how on earth I forgot that because the next day it started raining and it seemed like it didn't stop for months. I need to start looking at notes before I post rather than going off memory. I just pressed some into thinly sliced venison for steak sandwiches, and it smells wonderful in here. I still have plenty in good shape to cook with so I guess that was the right time to harvest.
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Join Date: Mar 2014
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JR those are some unbelievable size and color leaves. Very nice.
They look like leeks! Are they so big because you planted jumbo cloves from jumbo bulbs? |
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