Member discussion regarding the methods, varieties and merits of growing tomatoes.
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This is kind of a scientific inquiry of sorts but it comes with a story. My son the Health Freak is going on a low carb diet (Ketosis I think). He wanted to know how low carb tomato sauce is made. Is the low carb tomato the thing or is it the process? Does anyone know how they make "low carb" tomato sauce? Is it something that I can make at home without the aid of a PhD in genetics and a large grant? Any input would be appreciated! By the way, I did see an article that said a normal tom has 5 grams of carbs where plum and cherry toms have about 1 gram. Still a lot.
Thanks; Pete
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Pete you answered your own question.
Like many things these days they advertize carb amounts in things being low like water. Tomatoes are naturally low carb, they just advertise it as being so. Like the water bottles you see that say no GMO's and 0 carbs, really, 'you think. ![]() Plus if I am not mistaking they may very well put some sort of sweetener in processed tomato sauce. Tell your son not to worry you cant eat enough tomatoes to gain weight trust me I have tried. The health benefits far outweigh the crab amount plus you have to have carbs for your body to survive. I cant think of a better way to get them. Worth |
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you have to have carbs for your body to survive.
Sorry, my friend, I have to call you on that one. The keto diet's main premise is that you do not need carbs to live. The body will convert a fat-based diet to ketones, and fuel itself just fine. Think of an ancient eskimo living off whale and seal meat; they didn't have carbs. |
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![]() Before you jump on the Eskimo seal fat diet you might ought to order a sample first. ![]() Plus they did and do eat other things besides just fats and meat. Worth Last edited by Worth1; July 3, 2015 at 11:32 PM. |
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Carolyn here has taught Med School and I've been to Med School. People sell these diets to sell books. Your brain and ALL cells need TWO primary fuels for them to function properly: oxygen and glucose (carbs). If you want to lose weight the right way, do Weight Watchers and count your calories. Professional bodybuilders also count their calories. If that's too much, then try this: http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/the-...t-healthy.html ![]() |
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Carolyn here has taught Med School and I've been to Med School. People sell these diets to sell books. Your brain and ALL cells need TWO primary fuels for them to function properly: oxygen and glucose (carbs).
And I've been to law school, but that doesn't make me the definitive authority on the law. If you have some sort of research to back up your statements, I'd be happy to look at whatever you can produce. |
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Cole I have always admired you for not tossing out your credentials here. When people do that it portrays to me that they are saying, look at me I am the all knowing on this you need look no farther. All I have is a meager certificate saying I am an engineering technologist in fire protection. ![]() Worth |
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I know and am friends with a lot of Native Alaskans including the so called Eskimos.
![]() One I know lost his grandmother in an ice hole on a seal hunt. ![]() Their friendship is hard earned due to the many prejudices against them by fools. But once these wonderful loving people gain your trust you have a friend for life. Worth |
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I'm excited to see more of their archaeological gems with all this glacial retreat, for them mostly since they might recover some lost lore. To me the concept of Grandma on the hunt is pretty cool. Everyone participating is the way to go. The ending, on the other hand, was not. There was no disparaging innuendo intended. cheers Last edited by Gerardo; July 5, 2015 at 03:02 PM. |
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Tomato doe not have any starch. So no carbs there. The only source of carb originates from the sugar (brix) which is not that much. That of course depends on the variety.
I don't have the numbers, but I think probably a can of CocaCola has more carb than a gallon of tomato sauce. The bottom line: You want low carb tomatoes ?: Do not eat the sweet once and look at the ingredients list on the tomato sauce can/bottle. . Gardeneer |
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On one side you have the carnivores on the other you have the herbivores and then some like myself are omnivores. ![]() I am like a bear, I like meat mostly but I wont pass up a good berry bush. ![]() |
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Some sauces have an astonishing amount of sugar added. My family likes a little variety so we buy a few different sauces. There was one that was so sweet I could hardly eat it. It had 13 grams of sugar per serving. One had 8 and I could eat it, but I didn't really care for it. So now we only buy sauce with 6 grams or less.
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I look for the top 3 killers, at least I think so. Salts. HFCS. And hydrogenated fats. I dont eat enough carbs from grain to amount to a hill of beans so I dont worry about it. Quote:
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I meant to include the wiki link to the Keto diet:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ketosis It also reduces seizures in epileptic children by two-thirds. That was known in the 1920s. But ideas like that are not a part of modern health care. They want to treat everything with medication instead. |
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