Who ever said Indian Stripe was as good as CP...

gssgarden · June 26, 2015

Was pretty darn close!! What a surprise!!

Fruit seems to be more solid, beautiful brick color, juicy and has an out of this world flavor that gets better as you eat it!

I cut it up, a little salt, and could not stop! The more I ate it, the longer the flavor lingered in my mouth! Wonderful full, rich flavor that is so close to CP I probably couldn't tell the difference. I will try though as I HAVE to have a side by side comparison!

Tall, strong, healthy plant as well!

Fruits are big, smooth, and plentiful!!

Pic has a 6 3/4 oz, 9 1/2 oz and a 12 oz. The big one is still to come!

Even though it was my first ever, I have to say without question, she'll be back next year!

Greg

efisakov · June 26, 2015

You should try JD's Special C-Tex then too. It has better production than IS or CP and taste as good.

gssgarden · June 26, 2015

I have tried it about 4 or 5 years ago and didn't have much success with it. but if it's anything like these two I have to have it next year.

Greg

digsdirt · June 26, 2015

I think IStripe is even better tasting than CP. I grow CP too but Indian stripe has passed both it and Black Krim to my number 1 slot for the blacks.

Dave

efisakov · June 26, 2015

Sometimes its the seeds source.

I have two black tomatoes that were as good as the mentioned above: Sara and Black Master.

I am growing new to me varieties this year along with CP, IS, JD, BM, and Sara. So, you never know what comes to be the best this year.

Tracydr · June 26, 2015

Spudakee is doing great for me, tastes just like CP is my heaviest producer so far. I have a JD's but it's not quite ready. Will try IS next year.

efisakov · June 26, 2015

I got Spudakee seeds a bit late in the season. The seed germinated with some leaf problem, one leaf and no growing point. I decided not to restart new seeds. Definitely will try next year.

Tracy, hope your new garden is doing well.

Gardenboy · June 26, 2015

Are you referring to CP as Chinese Purple? Just wonder.

Gardenboy · June 26, 2015

Probably referring to Cherokee Purple...Sorry took me a few minutes to remember.. Indian Stripe did not produce a lot for me. There are other better "black" varieties that did better. Like Chinese Purple and Amazon Chocolate. Try them if you have not all ready.

travis · June 27, 2015

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Originally Posted by efisakov

I got Spudakee seeds a bit late in the season. The seed germinated with some leaf problem, one leaf and no growing point. I decided not to restart new seeds. Definitely will try next year.

Tracy, hope your new garden is doing well.

Your experience with a blind start is one example of why a grower should always plant several seeds, cull the weaker sprouts, and select the strongest transplants for growing in the garden.

efisakov · June 27, 2015

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Originally Posted by travis

Your experience with a blind start is one example of why a grower should always plant several seeds, cull the weaker sprouts, and select the strongest transplants for growing in the garden.

I agree. The only thing is, I have problem discarding the rest of the seedlings and to many varieties started as it was. I had more than the space allowed.

**carolyn137** · June 27, 2015

The following link from here should explain about the IS heart situation.

http://www.tomatoville.com/showthread.php?t=31249

Carolyn

**carolyn137** · June 26, 2015

Quote:

Originally Posted by gssgarden

Was pretty darn close!! What a surprise!!

Fruit seems to be more solid, beautiful brick color, juicy and has an out of this world flavor that gets better as you eat it!

I cut it up, a little salt, and could not stop! The more I ate it, the longer the flavor lingered in my mouth! Wonderful full, rich flavor that is so close to CP I probably couldn't tell the difference. I will try though as I HAVE to have a side by side comparison!

Tall, strong, healthy plant as well!

Fruits are big, smooth, and plentiful!!

Pic has a 6 3/4 oz, 9 1/2 oz and a 12 oz. The big one is still to come!

Even though it was my first ever, I have to say without question, she'll be back next year!

Greg

I've said that IS is as good as CP, that's who.

Actually it's a variant of CP, please see the following link:

http://tatianastomatobase.com/wiki/Indian_Stripe

Notice that comment made by Tania which I stated in initial SSE listing on how IS does differ slightly from CP, but then IS was grown in isolation formany eyars.

There are lots of folks now who prefer IS over CP.

CP and IS both gave stable PL variants

CP and IS both gave stable heart variants.

Both CP and IS have clear epidermises which is why their background color is pink. I call the so called blacks that have a clear epridermis Black/pink blacks, like IS and CP and Black from Tula, for instance, and red/blacks if they have a yellow epidermis such as Carbon, Black krim, etc.

You referred to the color as brick red, which confuses me, but maybe it's a photography issue.

For many of us older folks we associate the words brick red with Bill, since when he first SSE listed it he called it brick red, but as you can see it's really pink/

http://tatianastomatobase.com/wiki/P...b=General_Info

It's an excellent variety amd I wish more vendors would start relisting it b'c in the past it's been very popular.

I see others suggesting some other varieties that you might consider and that's fine, but I won't b'c I decided to respond only to your initial post/

Carolyn

b54red · June 26, 2015

Indian Stripe and Indian Stripe PL are two of my favorite tomatoes. As I have said in the past if I could only grow one it would be a IS because it is so reliable and reliably tasty and it keeps better than many of the dark tomatoes that are similar. I love Spudakee, JD's Special C Tex and many others but if I had to chose one it would be IS in either leaf form.

I grew CP for years and found it good but totally unreliable as a producer. Spudakee produced better but it can also have some bad seasons. JD's is all over the place one year it is fantastic producing huge delicious fruits and the next it only makes small tomatoes or it dies from Gray Mold because it is the most susceptible variety to that malady that I have ever seen; but it is so good that I still always plant at least two of them each season. Carbon is my favorite black tomato for the fall but it is not consistent in the spring and summer. Black Krim just splits too much despite the wonderful taste it is just too frustrating. Berkley Tie Dye Pink is also a great fall or spring tomato but splits like crazy in the summer heat if you get any rain. I still grow most of the black tomatoes if not every year then every other year but Indian Stripe gets multiple plantings every year.

There is one thing that will ruin any black tomato and that is a lot of rain over a long time. Three or four summers ago we had over two feet of rain in one month followed by a foot or so the next and that was a bust year for all my black tomatoes. I did get a few in the fall when it dried out but by then the plants were in pretty bad shape from all the diseases.

Bill

pauldavid · June 27, 2015

This is my first year with Indian Stripe. Tastes really good and is more productive than Cherokee Purple in my garden. I like it and it is originally from a town 20 miles from where I live. A new "must grow" for me.

I look forward to trying the PL version!

June 26, 2015	#2
efisakov Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: NJ, zone 7 Posts: 3,162	You should try JD's Special C-Tex then too. It has better production than IS or CP and taste as good. __________________ Ella God comes along and says, "I think I'm going to create THE tomato!”

June 26, 2015	#4
digsdirt Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Jun 2015 Location: No.Central Arkansas - 6b/7a Posts: 179	I think IStripe is even better tasting than CP. I grow CP too but Indian stripe has passed both it and Black Krim to my number 1 slot for the blacks. Dave __________________ Dave

June 26, 2015	#5
efisakov Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: NJ, zone 7 Posts: 3,162	Sometimes its the seeds source. I have two black tomatoes that were as good as the mentioned above: Sara and Black Master. I am growing new to me varieties this year along with CP, IS, JD, BM, and Sara. So, you never know what comes to be the best this year. __________________ Ella God comes along and says, "I think I'm going to create THE tomato!” Last edited by efisakov; June 26, 2015 at 07:58 PM.

June 26, 2015	#7
efisakov Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: NJ, zone 7 Posts: 3,162	I got Spudakee seeds a bit late in the season. The seed germinated with some leaf problem, one leaf and no growing point. I decided not to restart new seeds. Definitely will try next year. Tracy, hope your new garden is doing well. __________________ Ella God comes along and says, "I think I'm going to create THE tomato!” Last edited by efisakov; June 26, 2015 at 08:05 PM.

June 26, 2015	#8
Gardenboy Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: Fort Lauderdale, FL Posts: 784	Cp ? Are you referring to CP as Chinese Purple? Just wonder.

June 26, 2015	#3
gssgarden Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: N.C. Posts: 1,827	I have tried it about 4 or 5 years ago and didn't have much success with it. but if it's anything like these two I have to have it next year. Greg

June 26, 2015	#6
Tracydr Tomatovillian™ Join Date: May 2011 Location: Laurinburg, North Carolina, zone 7 Posts: 3,207	Spudakee is doing great for me, tastes just like CP is my heaviest producer so far. I have a JD's but it's not quite ready. Will try IS next year.

June 26, 2015	#9
Gardenboy Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: Fort Lauderdale, FL Posts: 784	Probably Cherokee Purple Probably referring to Cherokee Purple...Sorry took me a few minutes to remember.. Indian Stripe did not produce a lot for me. There are other better "black" varieties that did better. Like Chinese Purple and Amazon Chocolate. Try them if you have not all ready.

June 27, 2015	#12
carolyn137 Moderator Emeritus Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Upstate NY, zone 4b/5a Posts: 21,169	The following link from here should explain about the IS heart situation. http://www.tomatoville.com/showthread.php?t=31249 Carolyn __________________ Carolyn

June 26, 2015	#14
b54red Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Alabama Posts: 7,068	Indian Stripe and Indian Stripe PL are two of my favorite tomatoes. As I have said in the past if I could only grow one it would be a IS because it is so reliable and reliably tasty and it keeps better than many of the dark tomatoes that are similar. I love Spudakee, JD's Special C Tex and many others but if I had to chose one it would be IS in either leaf form. I grew CP for years and found it good but totally unreliable as a producer. Spudakee produced better but it can also have some bad seasons. JD's is all over the place one year it is fantastic producing huge delicious fruits and the next it only makes small tomatoes or it dies from Gray Mold because it is the most susceptible variety to that malady that I have ever seen; but it is so good that I still always plant at least two of them each season. Carbon is my favorite black tomato for the fall but it is not consistent in the spring and summer. Black Krim just splits too much despite the wonderful taste it is just too frustrating. Berkley Tie Dye Pink is also a great fall or spring tomato but splits like crazy in the summer heat if you get any rain. I still grow most of the black tomatoes if not every year then every other year but Indian Stripe gets multiple plantings every year. There is one thing that will ruin any black tomato and that is a lot of rain over a long time. Three or four summers ago we had over two feet of rain in one month followed by a foot or so the next and that was a bust year for all my black tomatoes. I did get a few in the fall when it dried out but by then the plants were in pretty bad shape from all the diseases. Bill

June 27, 2015	#15
pauldavid Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Mar 2015 Location: NE Louisiana, Zone 8A Posts: 1,179	This is my first year with Indian Stripe. Tastes really good and is more productive than Cherokee Purple in my garden. I like it and it is originally from a town 20 miles from where I live. A new "must grow" for me. I look forward to trying the PL version! Last edited by pauldavid; June 27, 2015 at 02:30 AM.