New to growing your own tomatoes? This is the forum to learn the successful techniques used by seasoned tomato growers. Questions are welcome, too.
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Tomatovillian™
Join Date: Oct 2014
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Cherry tomatoes from saved seed,unknown pedigree.
I had a 3 cotyledon and 4 cotyledon seedling. The 4 cotyledon died on me. The 3 cotyledon is still alive. In the past I have noticed they have more foliage then the norm. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC196586/ |
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Tomatovillian™
Join Date: Oct 2012
Location: Vancouver Island
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There is a higher incidence of abnormal anther cone development in blooms and male sterility in poly cot tomato plants. Personally I cull any I see.
As I try to do with any even a bit abnormal seedling KarenO Last edited by KarenO; May 24, 2020 at 01:45 PM. |
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In past episodes a 3 cotyledon will have about 30% more foliage ,
which comes in handy if your plants get blight and diseases during their lifetime. I never saved seed from those,so I don't know if they are sterile. A 4 cotyledon will have about 40% more foliage,why I had tears when that died. ![]() |
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Tomatovillian™
Join Date: Jun 2019
Location: Scotland
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Interesting to learn about seedling with more than 2 cotyledons, I've never had this happen with any of my tomatoes yet.
Fron the sounds of it, they are bad for saving seeds, but may have extra vigour? More foliage=more fruits or more sugar for the fruits from extra photosytnesis? I would deffo baby any 3-cotyledon seedling I found more than usual! Would be intersting to see how this one devolops and what happens with germination if you collect any seeds ![]()
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So people annihilate them,I go out of my way to nurture,always on the lookout for mutants.
They do have more foliage,so even if sterile I clone plants anyway. I can use them for cloning materiel. |
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A clone of a 4 cotyledon
cloning the leaf was fun http://www.tomatoville.com/showthrea...ghlight=clones |
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Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Victoria. Australia
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Last season I grew a variety called Mandarina and ended up with some weird looking plants, one of which was a spindly tricot. It actually grew three leaders, so I decided to grow it, but gave up as it put on so many suckers, it wouldn't stand up properly.
Tricots and quadcots aren't all that unusual here as I've had them show up often. Years ago I could almost guarantee I'd get both if I grew Lime Green Salad seedlings. |
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Like dog ate my homework deer ate my handiwork before they had a chance to set fruit.
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Join Date: Jan 2006
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In past years, I've had a couple of tricots which I planted in the garden, but since I don't remove most suckers on tomatoes, after a few weeks all plants pretty much look the same. By the end of the season, I've long since lost track of which was the tricot. I don't keep production records for each plant either, so have not noticed whether or not they produce less. They seem to set enough visible tomatoes.
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I never noticed before,but using the paper towel method of germinating
I had a 3 cotyledon be the first to pop in a recent episode after 14 days. Maybe with all that "meat" inside they are the 1st to pop. I hope it lives long enough to add it to soil. |
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It's probably best to take the extra leaders off and just grow as a normal tomato plant, save extra foliage problems as they grow.
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The tricot is now about 3x the size of it's siblings.
I think I will leave it alone. I started the seeds may 1st and that plant would be big enough to put in the ground. |
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