Non bitter, thin skinned, clustered, golf ball sized?

[mensplace]

With so many of the smaller vaierties being either thick skinned, or retaining something of a bitter residual flavor I have steered away from many of the smaller varieties. But, while down in Florida recently I enjoyed a small, golf balled sized variety that was just perfect for a pop in the mouth sort of quick fix when you just gotta have a mater. Is there something along these size lines that is just cram packed with intense sugary sweetness without the bitter skin or greenhouse taste. here I'm not even talking about the acidic balance I so often look for in larger varieties, but something that is just plain fun for when out in the garden and you want a mouth FULL in one bite of luscious, juicy, intensely sweet goodness? This will be a new one for me. Not a cherry, not a pear, or even a slichtly larger variety to needs to be cut, but just something extra special that can be eaten and savored in one bite? Color doesn't matter, but I would think a red would be more intense. Doen't even have to be clustered, but they surely are pretty. Being selfish here, because THIS one probably won't even make it inside. I'm thinking kind of a mouthful that can be crushed in the mouth like one of those chocolate colored cherries with the liquid center. Pure tomato decadence as a special reward for the gardener!

[dipchip2000]

Taste being in the opinion of the tastee will be hard to get an answer that pleases everyone. Therefore I give you my opinion which is not necessarily the popular answer.
In no particular order I like:
Big sungold select
Sungold
Sunsugar
Black Cherry
To me , all will give that quick fix for tomato flavor but only when sufficiently ripe.
I like em.
ron

[Wi-sunflower]

Jaune Flamme could be another one depending on your taste. Bigger than a cherry but only about that golf ball size. It has just enough red in the flesh that it isn't my fav for flavor. But that's because I don't really like RED tomatoes.

Carol

[rhynes_boomer]

Hi Everyone!

I see this new post this morning, and see you are talking about itty bitty to golf size maters? I have requested the Chocolate cherry tomato seeds, Again one I have never heard of until about a week ago.

Have you guy's ever tried it and what do you think? I want to plant this seed this year, I am planting a garden with ALL new types this year! This is GREAT!!!

Kat

[frogwash]

Originally Posted by rhynes_boomer

Hi Everyone!

I see this new post this morning, and see you are talking about itty bitty to golf size maters? I have requested the Chocolate cherry tomato seeds, Again one I have never heard of until about a week ago.

Have you guy's ever tried it and what do you think? I want to plant this seed this year, I am planting a garden with ALL new types this year! This is GREAT!!!

Kat

other than the first two weeks of ripe fruit, the Chocolate Cherries that I grew this year were spitters.

[piegirl]

grew chocolate cherry this year and I agree with Rhynes - but none of mine were anything to shout about - spitters. Heavy set about mid season, difficult to determine ripeness but it didn't seem to matter b/c they were not very good. They performed well as a plant in a really difficult growing season - particularly very high humidity but won't be coming back to my garden. piegirl

[daylilydude]

Pink Ping Pong is my choice.

[heirloomdaddy]

Originally Posted by daylilydude

Pink Ping Pong is my choice.

yep. I really hate the name but really great tomato.

[mensplace]

Really, I wasn't refering so much to the cherry tomato size so much as those that are between a ping-pong ball and golf ball size...i.e., a real mouthful that can be decdently squished whole in the mouth with tons of the juiciest, sweetest possible flavor...and no bitterness or thick skin...and plenty at any given time, because I can just see myself going through several each day. In fact, MOST would never make it into the house. I guess the red because of the lycopene and because, in my experience, they tend to be more intensely tomatoey. Hope that helps by way of clarification.

Side question....when having gone from the seedling stage to just potted; when is it appropriate to fertilize ...and low or high nitrogen at the just potted stage?

[carolyn137]

You specifically asked for a cluster type variety which is different from a normal cherry varietyas I see it, so I'll nominate Bulgarian Triumph.

[mensplace]

Originally Posted by carolyn137

You specifically asked for a cluster type variety which is different from a normal cherry varietyas I see it, so I'll nominate Bulgarian Triumph.

Looking at Tatiana's and reading the description, it sounds PERFECT. Thank You!!!!!!! Funny though, in genral search across the net I found three totally different tomatoes of that name. Now to see if the actual one being referred to here is still available. Thanks to all who kicked in here. I'll try to locate some of the others as well just as a comparison as it has been years since I have grown any of the smaller styles. Last time I had cherry tomatoes they were bitter, acrid, and acidic with tons of seeds. Funny that in a regullar tomato my taste and flavor desires are so different, but maybe its where and how I eat them...in the field as soon as they turn deep red...THERE I want as much sweetness as possible, but just don't have the patience for the tiny cherry varieties..it gets old unsnapping the fingers!

[mtbigfish]

mensplace
It would help if you list some you have tried and liked or disliked - that would give a better idea of your taste comparison


Carolyn
Are you saying mensplace has a big MOUTH ha ha ha
Bulgarian Triump can get a little bigger than a just pop in your mouth one bite from ones I grew in the past - did I get bad seed??


Dennis

[carolyn137]

Originally Posted by mtbigfish

mensplace
It would help if you list some you have tried and liked or disliked - that would give a better idea of your taste comparison


Carolyn
Are you saying mensplace has a big MOUTH ha ha ha
Bulgarian Triump can get a little bigger than a just pop in your mouth one bite from ones I grew in the past - did I get bad seed??


Dennis

Dennis, I don't know of ANY cluster type that's cherry sized as in 1-2 oz. as most might say although Glenn Drowns lists varieties with fruits much bigger than that in his cherry section. The fruits of Bulgarian Triumph run about 2-4 oz with about 4 to the cluster.

Mensplace, I know of only one variety that's named Bulgarian Triumph although there are many others with Bulgarian as part of the variety name such as Bulgarian #7, Milka's Red Bulgarian, Kroska Pink Bulgarian. Large Pink Bulgarian and on and on.

[mensplace]

Originally Posted by carolyn137

Dennis, I don't know of ANY cluster type that's cherry sized as in 1-2 oz. as most might say although Glenn Drowns lists varieties with fruits much bigger than that in his cherry section. The fruits of Bulgarian Triumph run about 2-4 oz with about 4 to the cluster.

Mensplace, I know of only one variety that's named Bulgarian Triumph although there are many others with Bulgarian as part of the variety name such as Bulgarian #7, Milka's Red Bulgarian, Kroska Pink Bulgarian. Large Pink Bulgarian and on and on.

The only "cherry" tomato I ever grew years ago were the size of large marbles, so I am not at all up on the newer ones. Back then there was a strong residual bitterness. But, yes, I do like the sound of super sweet tomatoes the size of ping pong or golf balls. ...big mouth and all. My fingers often snap into a claw when handling very small things and the "unsnapping" smarts. Two, I HAVE ben known to eat a small tomato whole just to savor the wonderful flavor and juice! These have been described as being anywhere from one to 4 ounces. Notice the difference between these two links.
http://tatianastomatobase.com/wiki/Bulgarian_Triumph

http://www.totallytomato.com/dp.asp?...A-B7EBD95B3270}


As to whether clustered as in the greenhouse types, or like grapes, or just in large numbers really doesn't even matter; it just makes it harder to find and pick them when there are only a few scattered throughout the plant's growth. If others have thoughts of similarly sweet and similar size ...I'm open!

[carolyn137]

I don't see Bulgarian Triumph via your link to Totally Tomatoes. It just says the product specified is not here or something like that.

Tania's description is correct and you can see how popular it is bc of the number of seed sites selling seeds for it, which Tania is as well.