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Tomatovillian™
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: Warsaw, Poland 52° N
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The best known breeder and crosser of tomatoes in Poland is Anna Kozula, who has been producing her own varieties for five years, although she started out as a typical market grower with stable varieties. In her own words, She chanced into breeding, when a friend of hers brought a tomato, which was of an "amateur" variety, but tasty , beautyful and productive enough to warrant a market "experiment". There were 3 seedlings, from which seeds were taken, for this was thought to be a stable variety. 4 tunnels were planted, but.... total disaster. A strange mix of horned ones, including determinates and dwarves. In spite of the look most of the tomatoes were sold, because they found buyers because of their flavour. She decided to improve them by crossing and selection, and that has been going on for 5 years now with some improvement of the result along the road.
Now she has become a master of crossing, and her seeds were distributed to many different people, including me. Like she says herself, her market growing is different from everyone else's, because each plant is different (unique). Most of her crosses were between "American" and Polish varieties, and I may post a complete list later. |
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Tomatovillian™
Join Date: May 2009
Location: Kent, UK
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Sounds very exciting.
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Tomatovillian™
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: Warsaw, Poland 52° N
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Kozula's master list (everything seed was distributed for in early 2010):
(non-Polish varieties used in crossings and distributed after grow out) 1. Amish Salad, red heart 2. Black from Tula, black with plenty of flesh 3. Black Krim, black, naturally salty 4. Black Japanese Trifele, black, non-cracking 5. Black Zebra, avoid too much nitrogen in fertilizer because of bad taste 6. Big Zebra 7. Copia, yellow with red stripes,fruity taste 8. Cherokee Purple, black with plenty of flesh 9. Grightmires Pride , pink heart with short internodes for this type 10. Kalman, fruit oblong, long internodes, suscptible to dry rot, never tart 11. Purple Russian, black with oblong fruit (cherries, cocktail tomatoes): 12. truskawkowy (seed from store bought F1) 13. Oblong fruit with "real" tomato taste 14. Huge trusses 15. truskawkowy x Dyno 16. truskawkowy x pink plum, indeterminate Ff (resistant against fungal brown leaf spot) 17. truskawkowy x Purple Russian (breeding lines) From Pink Ff x Copia, all indeterminate: 18. yellow plum with pink nuances, sweet 19. yellow with pink stripes Ff 20. purple - chocolate Ff 21. red Ff 22. pink, weak stripes Ff 23. orange, weak stripes Ff 24. green-purple stripes, rather tart 25. green striped with pink nuances Ff 26. pink with green stripes, by full ripeness changing to yellow Ff 27. pink with yellow stripes Ff 28. pink with short yellow stripes Ff From Big Zebra x Black Pear, indeterminate 29. pink with green stripes, by full ripeness changing to yellow, strong colour 30. yellow with red stripes From Black Zebra x Orange Strawberry , indeterminate 31. red striped From Steak Sandwich x Pink King 32. pink dwarf plum Ff, weak seedlings, big fruit 33. pink determinate Ff, strong foliage 34. pink determinate Ff 35. pink determinate Ff, strong colour 36. pink indeterminate Ff, round, productive, good consistency 37. pink indeterminate Ff, big fruit, flattened, remove double blooms From pink Ff x Kalman 38. pink indeterminate Ff, oblong fruit (Crosses, indeterminate) 39. Albenga x Beeforange, red or orange 40. Albenga x Big Zebra 41. Albenga x Black Zebra, red, mid size, productive 42. Albenga x pink round Ff 43. Albenga x pink flattened Ff 44. Amish Salad x pink flattened Ff, red or golden 45. Big Zebra x Orange Strawberry 46. Black Japanese Trifele x Black Zebra 47. pink round Ff x Anna Russian, pink, between heart and "ordinary" 48. Black Japanese Trifele x Cherokee Purple 49. Black Zebra x Big Zebra 50. Black Pear x Kalman, red, for poor locations, sensitive to excessive nitrogen 51. Black Pear x pink round Ff 52. Caspian Pink x Dyno 53. Caspian Pink x Kalman, pink 54. Caspian Pink x Pink King, pink 55. Cherokee Purple x Black Zebra 56. Cherokee Purple x pink round Ff 57. Cherokee Purple x pink flattened Ff 58. CLX 37 397 x pink flattened Ff, pink, there should be little goo 59. Copia x Beeforange, red or orange 60. Copia x Big Zebra , yellow striped 61. Copia x Black Zebra, red and green striped 62. Copia x Orange Strawberry 63. Costoluto Genovese x Big Zebra 64. Dyno x Bawole Serce from market, 65. Dyno x Big Zebra 66. Dyno x Copia 67. Dyno x pink flattened Ff 68. Dyno x Orange Strawberry , red, early, productive, tasty - disadvantage - long internodes 69. Faworyt x pink flattened Ff, pink 70. Faworyt x Pink King, pink 71. Grightmires Pride x pink flattened Ff, pink 72. Israeli Striped x Big Zebra 73. Israeli Striped x Black Zebra 74. Israeli Striped x pink flattened Ff 75. Kalman x Anna Russian, pink heart 76. Kosovo x pink flattened Ff, pink 77. Kosovo x Pink King, pink 78. Lnisno x Big Zebra, red, Lnisno is a pink heart 79. Lnisno x Copia, red 80. pink round Ff x Big Zebra, red 81. pink round Ff x Dyno, red 82. pink round Ff x Kalman, pink 83. Malinowy Warszawski x Pink King, pink 84. Orange Strawberry x Anna Russian, red heart 85. Orange Strawberry x Big zebra, red 86. Ożarowski Złoty x Orange Strawberry, yellow, productive, rather tart 87. Persimmon x Dyno, red 88. Persimmon x Orange Strawberry, yellow 89. Persimmon x Pink King , red 90. Purple Russian x Black Zebra, red 91. Purple Russian x Cherokee Purple, black 92. Purple Russian x Dyno, red, may be smokey towards "black" 93. Razzle Dazzle x Anna Russian, pink, Razzle Dazzle is very hard/firm 94. Razzle Dazzle x Dyno, red 95. Steak Sandwich x Anna Russian, pink 96. ( Beeforange Ff x Orange Straw.) x Big Zebra, probably orange heart 98. ( Dyno x Orange Straw.) x Bawole Serce from market 99. ( Dyno x Orange Straw.) x pink round Ff 100. Ożarowski Złoty x ( Beeforange Ff x Orange Straw.) 101. Big Zebra x Pink King, red 102. CLX 37397 x Copia, red 103. CLX 37397 x -pink Ff, pink 104. Kalman x Bawole Serce from market, pink heart shaped 105. pink determinate Ff x Anna Russian, pink, between heart shaped and "ordinary" Two year old seeds (from 2008) 106. Bawole Serce from Plantico x Orange Strawberry, red heart 107. Bawole Serce from market x Orange Strawberry, red heart 108. Bawole Serce from market x Bawole Serce from Plantico, red or golden 109. Beeforange x Orange Strawberry, orange 110. DRK 7014 x Bawole Serce from market 111. DRK 7014 x Orange Strawberry 112. Dyno x Kalman, elongated fruit, golden, tasty 113. Kalman x Dyno - different look and taste than cross of the same parents reversed (female x male) 114. Orange Strawberry x Bawole Serce from Plantico, red heart 115. Orange Strawberry x Bawole Serce from market, red heart 116. Orange Strawberry x Pink King, red Segregation and selection necessary: 117. (Black Zebra x Copia) F2 , red and green stripes, should be striped in different colours 118. (Dyno x Big Zebra) F2, this may be a striped plum, to get something interesting you have to grow at least 10 plants. A "lost" one in the end: 119. pink determinate, early, tasty, from Steak Sandwich Last edited by GunnarSK; July 13, 2010 at 11:30 AM. |
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Tomatovillian™
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Anmore, BC, Canada
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Gunnar,
Is this a full list? Are any of these stable? Tania
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Tomatovillian™
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: Warsaw, Poland 52° N
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This is a full list of what she offered one year ago. Some of the breeding lines may be semi-stable, as they are F3-F6. There is an updated list on The Tomato Garden, and Darthslater is doing the distribution in the US etc. (don't know positively if Canada is included).
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Tomatovillian™
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Evansville, IN
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What are the parental lines of those numbered 126 through 139?
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Tomatovillian™
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: Warsaw, Poland 52° N
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The "varieties" 126-139 have an undisclosed parentage, but inferring from the fact that all dark varieties and "zebras" are from initial Copia crosses you can find out something. There is more information on The Tomato Garden, but even there it's incomplete.
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Buffalo-Niagara Tomato TasteFest™ Co-Founder
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: The Niagara Frontier
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It's 5-6 years later.... any updates?
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Tomatovillian™
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Wisconsin
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I don't know how I missed this thread initially. I just found it thru a link at Tomatobase.
Anyway, I was given seeds for quite a few of the Kozula varieties. Several of them have been stubborn at giving me decent seeds. At the moment I have 6 varieties I list seeds for and several others I'm still working on. Some are a bit variable but many have stabilized fairly well. Most that I have are now at F5 or 6 or higher. My personal favorite is #14 as that's a great little tomato I can take to market. I only take cherries and small stuff to market because I'm not allowed to sample if I have to cut anything. Cherries I can offer whole. And the taste is what sells them. Carol |
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Tomatovillian™
Join Date: Jun 2015
Location: Colorado
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interesting. any pictures of these segregating crosses? Anything truly unique. I'm less interested in stable lines, more interested in things that are different. These polish tomato lines sound interesting.
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