Indiana Red and Lincoln Adams

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The smaller tomato in the pictures is NOT Lincoln Adams!!!

I'll bet this gets Carolyn's attention. These were set out later than the main garden. Here's the first fruits to blush well. The two plants (one of each) each have about a dozen or so green ones coming along.

Indiana Red seems to be a consumate heart. The telltale shape is unmistakeable. This plant is in the main garden.

Can't wait for tasting time.

Thanks to Carolyn for the seed two years ago. Herman's special is also doing great.

Ted

[carolyn137]

Yes Ted, the title got my attention.

Looking good for the Lincoln-Adams which should be pink, and what the heck is that little tomato to the right of the Indiana Red? I jest a little b'c with hearts of almost any variety the earliest ones may not all be perfect hearts.

Be sure to report back on how they taste to you and production is sounding great.

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Okay, I put the smaller tomato to the ultimate taste test. My brother and I like to go down to Hardee's every now and then to have a breakfast of biscuits and gravy with a side of egg and black coffee. We have a habit of taking a tomato to add to the breakfast. We cut it right there at the table inside the place. We DO draw a bit of attention. A couple of times there have been folks who ask for a slice. We accommodate as best we can. Gotta be nice to the neighbors. LOL!

So, it was my turn to select a tomato and I decided to take the smaller tomato. Well, it turns out that both of us think it is the best of the season so far. So, again, I have to say thanks to Carolyn. WOW, this tomato is at the top of next year's grow list. Using a system similar to Craig's, I would give this one a solid 9.3 out of 10. It was better than Cowlicks, Brandywine Sudduths, Brandy Boy, Chapman, Golden Cherokee, and Indian Stripe. It also edged out Rozalinda and Golden Dwarf Champion, both of which came in at 9.1 out of 10.

The Indiana Red was pretty good, but doesn't hold a candle to the smaller tomato. We both understand that taste is very individual, but after sharing 4 slices (I had to get a second tom out of the car), even those recipients wanted to know where we got that tomato.

Ahhh, the joys of discovery.

Ted

[carolyn137]

Ted, I'm really glad to hear that you liked Lincoln-Adams as much as I did. And I also thought the two red hearts I offered this past Spring were terrific and those were Indiana Red and Linnie's Oxheart which I won't be offering again. I will probably still be offering Danko, another red heart which I think is also terrific.

The reason I'm posting is to share with you and others that in a week or so I will be asking for feedback on the varieties I listed this past Spring in my annual free seed offer. And I hope you and others will contribute to that thread, meaning, add there what you posted here so that everything will be in one place.

yes, the thread on Big Sungold Select is separate and anyone posting feedback about that variety can continue to post it in that thread.

I want to know if the seed from that offer was pure, although I do know that all varieties offered from 2007 and 2008 were from bagged blossoms and most but not all from 2009.

I'm especially interested in the older seeds I offered b'c if the germination is way down, and we did have a feedback thread on that, and if there were any varieties with crossed seed I won't offer those again.

And there will be a very abbreviated list of those from this summer in my next offer b'c of major problems with seed production, but I've posted about that before.

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No problem, Carolyn. I'll look into my database and make sure I'm ready to post that data.

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Ted

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Looking good my friend. Grew Indiana Red last year and had nothing but good things to say about it. Put me on the list for LA. Ami

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The tomato pictured is NOT Lincoln Adams.

Gotcha, Ted. Here's some pictures from just a few minutes ago. I haven't done much to this plant except water it. No ferts at all. The growing medium is 100% mushroom compost. These toms in the pixs will weigh in at about 12 ozs on average.

I know, I know. How much better if I had actually taken care of this one like I did my plants last year.

Note that the weather has been bad enough that even the container plants are showing cracking.

Ted

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Ted-thanks for your comments about Lincoln-Adams. Got seed for it from
Glecklers but didn't grow it, thought I had too many pinks! Now I see I
have room for one more! Growing Indiana Red (also from Glecklers) and
am getting some really sharply pointed hearts-really a beautiful heart
and a wonderful red color-haven't tasted it yet. Also grew Danko for
the first time in a container. A relatively short plant (3 to 4') with really
nice but blunt hearts. I was surprized by the size; they were larger than
expected-several larger than a baseball and the plant was very productive
as well as extremely early. Darlene

[carolyn137]

Originally Posted by greyghost

Ted-thanks for your comments about Lincoln-Adams. Got seed for it from
Glecklers but didn't grow it, thought I had too many pinks! Now I see I
have room for one more! Growing Indiana Red (also from Glecklers) and
am getting some really sharply pointed hearts-really a beautiful heart
and a wonderful red color-haven't tasted it yet. Also grew Danko for
the first time in a container. A relatively short plant (3 to 4') with really
nice but blunt hearts. I was surprized by the size; they were larger than
expected-several larger than a baseball and the plant was very productive
as well as extremely early. Darlene

Darlene, I'm glad you're taking a look at Glecker's/

Two years ago I started a thread in the Wanted Seeds subforum and asked tville members to donate seeds to Adam so he could move faster in getting his site going. If you read thru that thread youll see who sent what.

Adam's grandfather started the seed business back in the 40's, then his father took over and then they stopped in 1994 and many of us who knew Glecklers were so pleased to see Adam starting again.

Our focus was on donating seeds for varieties that were rare, perhaps less well known and hard to get b/c he was up against some much larger companies. And I think we did pretty well with our donations.

And yes, I'm the one who sent Lincoln-Adams, Indiana Red and Danko to Adam last year and also offered them in my annual free seed offer here.

here's a preview of what I sent this past Spring but right now I don't know how many of them he'll like and be able to get good seed production from;



Green Doctors, and I know that he got some GD Frosted from some of those, which is good.

Coullies d'Tareau, a great large red

Burning Spear, a brilliant intense orange with short sausage type fruits, a paste

Rose D'Eauze

Big Sungold Select

Mama Leone

Medovaya Kaplya, small fruits ripen up gold, looks like a wee purse tied at the top

Jean's Prize

Herman's Special

Mortgage Lifter ( Estler)

And all of the above I offered in my free seed offer here this past Spring, well, not the ML ( EStler) but all the others, and there were many others that were donated as well.

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Carolyn,
I had remembered the thread but had forgotten who donated what
but it will be an interesting reread since I'm more familiar with the
varieties and T'ville members now. Many thanks to all who donated seeds
and for the Glecklers; it was a wonderful opportunity for many of us to try previously "difficult to obtain" varieties like Spudakee Purple, Red Barn
and those mentioned above. Can't wait to see what they'll offer this
spring!

Just by chance, I had ordered Couille de Taureau from Tatiana's-another
terrific source of unusual, great varieties. We thought it was an absolutely great tasting red. Entertained neighbors last night-they said it was one of their favorites (we had given them a plant) also.

[carolyn137]

Originally Posted by greyghost

Carolyn,
I had remembered the thread but had forgotten who donated what
but it will be an interesting reread since I'm more familiar with the
varieties and T'ville members now. Many thanks to all who donated seeds
and for the Glecklers; it was a wonderful opportunity for many of us to try previously "difficult to obtain" varieties like Spudakee Purple, Red Barn
and those mentioned above. Can't wait to see what they'll offer this
spring!

Just by chance, I had ordered Couille de Taureau from Tatiana's-another
terrific source of unusual, great varieties. We thought it was an absolutely great tasting red. Entertained neighbors last night-they said it was one of their favorites (we had given them a plant) also.

Darlene, just so you know, there was no public thread for what was donated this past Spring, just me sharing with what I personally sent. The hterad that's there is for seed donated a year ago this apst Spring and most of what was donated was listed.

My Couilles was from Reinhard Kraft in Germany and while the name is written in the French language the variety originated in Spain and was renamed in Belgium.

Gott go, tennis final started 15 min ago.

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I did a side by side taste test last night with Wes, Linnie's, Indiana Red, and Russian 117. The Indiana Red stood out from the others by being noticably sweeter. It also has a large proportion of big honkin fruit.

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My apologies for misleading anyone. When I did my followup checks to make sure that things had grown true to type, I discovered that the tomato I had thought was Lincoln Adams was in fact not Lincoln Adams.

I am at a loss to know why. My seed planting procedures are solid and, in my opinion, not subject to failure. I cover each compartment of the 72 cell starter flats except the one being planted. I take the exact number of seeds to be planted out of the packet and place them on the cover near the destination cell. After they are placed in the starter medium, that cell is covered so that a dropped seed cannot be lost in the wrong place. I always use fresh, new Miracle Grow Seed Starter mix and fresh clean 72 cell trays.

I had no other problems with seed growing true to type. So, I have no explanation why this happened.

Lincoln Adams, which should be a large pink heart with potato leaf foliage, was not the tomato I grew.


Ted

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No apologies needed, Ted, I think similiar things have happened to all
of us by now! Maybe it was a crossed or a stray seed in the packet-
I'm beginning to think tomatoes have a bit of a secret life behind our backs. I think you're very lucky to have found a great tasting tom!
Darlene (who still will give L-A a shot next year)

[carolyn137]

Originally Posted by greyghost

No apologies needed, Ted, I think similiar things have happened to all
of us by now! Maybe it was a crossed or a stray seed in the packet-
I'm beginning to think tomatoes have a bit of a secret life behind our backs. I think you're very lucky to have found a great tasting tom!
Darlene (who still will give L-A a shot next year)

Darlene, as Ted noted in his first post here, the seeds were from me form 2008 crop, as I recall. As I recall, and I'd have to check, I had both seeds from bagged blossoms and seed from unbagged blossoms.

I don't know what to say either, b'c it's the first instance of someone not getting what they should with Lincoln-Adams from my seeds, either from my SSE listing for it or from my seed offer here.

Which is why I'm asking folks to post in my feedback thread, tell me how many plants they put out of a single variety and if all were true or not.