Olen'ka?

[kath]

Wondering if there was any resolution as to what this variety is, where it came from, is it Olena Ukrainian, etc. Got seeds from Carol Knapp and a search brought up the spring 2010 thread here about this variety perhaps having come from Carolyn Male. Can't find anything on the internet aside from it might be Polish and it's very sweet.

Would like to know what to expect in terms of leaf type and eventual height and color so I can assign it a spot in the tomato patch and also know if it grows true to type.

Thanks for any help!

[carolyn137]

Originally Posted by kath

Wondering if there was any resolution as to what this variety is, where it came from, is it Olena Ukrainian, etc. Got seeds from Carol Knapp and a search brought up the spring 2010 thread here about this variety perhaps having come from Carolyn Male. Can't find anything on the internet aside from it might be Polish and it's very sweet.

Would like to know what to expect in terms of leaf type and eventual height and color so I can assign it a spot in the tomato patch and also know if it grows true to type.

Thanks for any help!

http://tomatoville.com/showthread.ph...ight=olen%27ka

here's that thread again and it says that when Carol was asked about it she said all she knew was the name and that it was Polish b'c you, meaning heirloom 08, said so.

But if Carol was selling seeds for it, and she still is according to Tania site, then perhaps she's the one to ask about since she's grown it.

I just checked Tania's site and all she has for this variety is Polish??? and that it's RL and only Carol is offering it.

I had asked about it possibly realting to Olena Ukrainian at first and that I couldn't find any Polish variety by that name, and that's kind of where things were left as I see it. And it seems to be not the same as Olena Ukrainian if it's really Polish in origin and I know nada about any of the traits of Olen-ka other than that the folaige is RL and that from Taina's page and she hasn't grown it either.

[kath]

Ok, thanks Carolyn- I'll send Carol a PM.

[Wi-sunflower]

Actually I just looked at my seedlings out in the greenhouse and the Olen'kas are all potato leafed.

I have to admit to getting too many new-to-me varieties the last 2 years to have given all of them the attention they need to get to really know them all. I need to do a better job of that this summer.

One problem I have is that I tend to concentrate on the cherries too much as they are what I mostly take to the markets due to the market's no sampling rule if you have to cut it. I can give samples of the cherries whole. It's the taste that sells the stuff with odd names or colors.

Carol

[carolyn137]

Originally Posted by Wi-sunflower

Actually I just looked at my seedlings out in the greenhouse and the Olen'kas are all potato leafed.

I have to admit to getting too many new-to-me varieties the last 2 years to have given all of them the attention they need to get to really know them all. I need to do a better job of that this summer.

One problem I have is that I tend to concentrate on the cherries too much as they are what I mostly take to the markets due to the market's no sampling rule if you have to cut it. I can give samples of the cherries whole. It's the taste that sells the stuff with odd names or colors.

Carol

http://t.tatianastomatobase.com:88/wiki/Olen%27ka

Carol, as I posted above Tania has you listing seeds for sale for this variety for 2010 as well as 2011.

When you grew it in 2009 for seed production to list it for 2010 what did you write at your website about the basic traits, as in leaf form, fruit,etc, so that folks would know they were getting/ And in 2009 were the plants RL?

Same question about the plants you grew last year to list for 2010 or were you using the same seeds which would be quite normal.

So what else can be said about what you've seen before with this variety? Does it surprise you that you're now getting PL foliage when it was reported to be RL?

Just woindering since I was the one who suggested in an above post that Kath contact you since she got her seeds from you in 2010.

[Wi-sunflower]

Carolyn,

At first I didn't have anything on my web page for Olen'ka. I hadn't found anything at the yearbook or Tomatobase. I didn't realize that it was something "unique" at the time.

Then when Heirloomer wrote that brief blurb "Polish, very sweet" and since I had gotten it from him, I put that on my site. That's all I have there.

Normally I observe my plants a lot during the summer as I cultivate them with an old Allis G tractor. It's slow and gives me plenty of time to see stuff. But most of last year it didn't want to run. So I used the roto on the back of a Ford 8N. It is faster and doesn't get as close, so the weeds were awful and I could barely see where I was going, let alone the plants.

The seeds I'm using are still those I collected in the fall of 09. As far as I could see in that other thread, no mention of leaf type was said at all. It's possible you are remembering the other variety that you thought it may be. That might further indicate it isn't that other variety.

I know I looked to see if I had a pic of Olen'ka last year and didn't. DH took a lot of pics last fall as we were collecting for seeds. But since that wasn't a variety we needed, I don't think he got a pic of it either. There are still a lot of pics on his camera I haven't seen tho.

Carol

[GunnarSK]

Originally Posted by Wi-sunflower

Carolyn,

At first I didn't have anything on my web page for Olen'ka. I hadn't found anything at the yearbook or Tomatobase. I didn't realize that it was something "unique" at the time.

Then when Heirloomer wrote that brief blurb "Polish, very sweet" and since I had gotten it from him, I put that on my site. That's all I have there.
Carol

I don't know of any Polish commercial variety called Olen'ka, and doubt any exists. It may be from another country though, but there is no indication.