Member discussion regarding the methods, varieties and merits of growing tomatoes.
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December 1, 2011 | #1 |
Tomatovillian™
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: Pennsylvania
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My 2012 Tomato Grow List
Well I just ordered my tomato seeds for next year. I'm not growing the seeds myself but I found a woman who runs a greenhouse who's more than willing to grow the seeds I give her.
Anyway, my list is: 1) Mortgage Lifter - Radiator Charlie's 2) Wapsipinicon Peach 3) Boxcar Willie 4) Brandywine Red - Landis Valley 5) Clint Eastwood's Rowdy Red 6) Purple Calabash 7) Omar's Lebanese 8 ) Bloody Butcher 9) Black Early 10) Black Cherry 11) Cherokee Green 12) Eva Purple Ball 13) Costoluto Genovese I'm also ordering: 1) Big Zac 2) Sungold 3) Sweet Million A Big thanks to Tatiana and Tomatofest for having such great websites to order from. I just have to figure out how I'm going to grow all of these varieties. |
December 1, 2011 | #2 |
Tomatovillian™
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: long island
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Sounds yummy!
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December 1, 2011 | #3 |
Tomatovillian™
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Phoenix, AZ (zone 9b)
Posts: 796
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I'm in a similar boat - There's about 20 varieties I want to grow this year but I have nowhere near enough space to grow that many.. so I have to keep my list small. Of course, I'll probably still end up starting seeds for 1 or 2 more varieties 'just because' right at the end.
Crazy thing is, in the past 2 months, I have ordered more varieties of tomato seed than I'll be able to grow this coming spring... So here's the list I have put together so far: Noire de Coseboeuf Mary Robinson Fandango Kimberley Brad's Black Heart Jaune Flammee Rosso Bruno (Kumato) F2 Campari F2 Delicious ..and a couple (hopefully) dwarf varieties from the project. ...at least for now
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December 1, 2011 | #4 |
Tomatovillian™
Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: Canada (Zone 6b)
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Have about 1/2 acre to plant on trellis - about 2000 plants. Here's what I've got on order:
Geronimo Arbason Beorange Annelise Granadero Sunstream Atavico Montessino Sakura Loranne |
December 1, 2011 | #5 |
Tomatovillian™
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Alabama
Posts: 7,068
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Usually I recognize one or two tomatoes on a list but I'm stumped with these. Where are you ordering them from?
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December 1, 2011 | #6 | |
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Bill, you'll find that Gourmet Gardener discussed most or all of them in the above thread from the Market Garden Forum in his thread about trialing cocktail tomato varieties, and also the sources.
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December 4, 2011 | #7 | |
Tomatovillian™
Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: Canada (Zone 6b)
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Granadero - A Plum/Roma type tomato. Resistant to almost anything you can throw at it. Tall indeterminate plant, **Very** productive - 5000 lbs+ in 200ft double row - about 20 - 23 lbs per plant. Geronimo - A non-greenback large beefsteak tomato very resistant to cracking. Very productive tall indeterminate plant. Good flavour. Beorange - A medium sized orange beefsteak on a tall indeterminate plant. Excellent production. Much longer shelf life than other orange beefsteaks. Abrason - A non-greenback large beefsteak tomato with good cracking resistance. Tall indeterminate plant. Annelise - A sister variety of Campari with added disease resistances. Looks identical, in fact is almost indistinguishable tastewise. Atavico - A tall indeterminate San Marzano type. Very productive. Sakura - A tall indeterminate red cherry type tomato. Montessino - A red grape tomato. Sunstream - One of the original strawberry type tomatoes. Tall indeterminate plant type. Can be cluster harvested, or harvested as singles. Very good flavour, excellent productivity. Loranne - A yellow/orange grape tomato. Is sold by Sunset/Mastronardi as Zima tomatoes. Very high sugars. Tall indeterminate plant from the Hazera boutique line can be happily grown indoors or outdoors. Is a good replacement for Solid Gold which I could no longer get from my suppliers this year. Geronimo, Arbason, Granadero, Montessino, and Sakura are available from Johnny's selected seeds. Annelise is available from Seeds of Change. My sources are: Paramount Seeds - Geronimo, Loranne, Beorange, Granadero, Atavico (Minimum orders are 250 seeds for DeRuiter varieties, 1000 seeds for Enza Zaden and Hazera varieties). Linbloms (Sweden) - must ship to friend in EU - Sunstream ($$$$$), Annelise ($$$$) Johnny's Selected Seeds - Arbason, Sakura, Montessino, Indigo Rose |
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December 1, 2011 | #8 |
Tomatovillian™
Join Date: Sep 2011
Location: Parma, Ohio (6a)
Posts: 299
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I'll be growing the following:
Sungold f1 x2 Cherokee Purple x2 Winsall x1 Brandywine from Croatia x2 Wes x2 Iditarod Red x1 Yukon Quest x1 This will also be my first time starting from seed. So my list may end up very different if I don't have luck with that! |
December 1, 2011 | #9 |
Tomatovillian™
Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: Alpine, Calif. in winter. Sandpoint Lake, Ont. Canada summers
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Kurt....as I have an ample supply of bamboo from 5 groves, I also use it for
staking. First, I use the 54" cages from Walmart and then tie to bamboo after that. If the plants grow higher than 70', I am out of luck!! |
December 1, 2011 | #10 |
Tomatovillian™
Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: Homestead,Everglades City Fl.
Posts: 2,500
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Poor mans trellis, bamboo,jute,rapid clips,removable
As promised.For Too Tall Toms,Kurt
Last edited by kurt; June 12, 2012 at 07:08 PM. |
December 1, 2011 | #11 |
Tomatovillian™
Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: Alpine, Calif. in winter. Sandpoint Lake, Ont. Canada summers
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My list keeps growing with every catalog received..
Abe Lincoln --Amazon Chocolate --Ana Russian --Aunt Gerties Gold --Aunt Molly’s Ground Cherries --Aunt Ruby’s German Green --Beefsteak --Berkley Tie-dye --Big Beef --Black Cherry --Black Krim --Black from Tula --Blondkopfchen --Boccone --Box Car Willie --Brad’s Black Heart --Brandywine --Brandywine OTV --Cherokee Green --Cherokee Purple --Costoluto Genovese --Cowlicks --Cuostrolee --Early Girl --Earl’s Faux - --Eva Purple Ball --Garden Peach -German Johnson --Giant Belgium --Golden Queen --Green Doctors --Green Pineapple --Green Zebra --Green giant --Indian Stripe --Jaune Flamme --J.D.’s Spec C-Tex --KBX --Kelloggs Breakfast --Kosovo --Mariana’s Peace --Momotoro --Mortgage Lifter --Neves Azorean Red --New Big Dwarf --Paul Robeson --Pineapple --Pruden’s purple --Prue --Riesenstab --Stump of the World --Stupice --Suddath --Sungold f1 --Sunsugar --Super Snow White --Terhune --Virginia Sweet --Wes --Yellow Brandywine |
December 1, 2011 | #12 |
Tomatovillian™
Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: Homestead,Everglades City Fl.
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I have the same problem with my cherrys.So to solve that I will train the limbs to the tie backs and let them go.Eventually some of the cherrys will go to 10-15 foot untill I stop them for as they will not ripen before my season ends around may-April when the heat sets in.My poles are at 7 foot.You can also control the leaders and suckers per plant to optimize berry growth,In my mind I beleive all the energys will go to bottom of plant if you control the plant by good pruning.Eventually I get a arbor look with tunnels of plants for easy harvest.
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December 1, 2011 | #13 |
Tomatovillian™
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: Atlanta, Georgia
Posts: 2,593
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I have room for 10 varieties. Here are my top 15. Can anyone suggest any of these particularly suited to the hot, steamy environment of Georgia?
Ailsa Craig Aunt Ginny's Purple Aunt Ruby's German Green Aunt Molly's Ground Cherry Black from Tula Black Krim Bradley Brazilian Beauty Cherokee Green Cherokee Purple Green Zebra Lime Green Salad Prue Red Zebra Sungold Select |
December 1, 2011 | #14 |
Tomatovillian™
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: Pennsylvania
Posts: 116
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Hey Kurt,
Those pictures are really cool. Thanks for posting. It's giving me some ideas for trellising my plants next year. What's the spacing on those plants? I can't tell. Like Sirtanon said, I don't know if I'll have room to grow all of the seeds I'm getting. Heck, I won't be surprised if I order more. At least I have a couple of months before I have to figure out the logistics of everything. |
December 2, 2011 | #15 |
Tomatovillian™
Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: Homestead,Everglades City Fl.
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The spacings are at about two foot.Since they are containerized the size saucer/pot determines the spacing.Also keeping in mind the variety (det/indeterminate).I grow the sweet millions that I keep at about 2 !/2 foot(very prolific and tall)The reisenstruabes can be kept at about 2 foot.I grow a apero that can be kept at 2 foot.Spacing also depends on the individual plant.Some of the same varietys and stock are stronger amongst them selves.So at the bamboo pot(two poles) I will put the faster stronger growing plant so as when the plant developes the first two main leaders I will support them right to the poles with pipe cleaners or velcro ties.Then usually five or six plants down the row another double pole pot.Then when the first leaders show that where the horizontal twine comes into play.For the determinate or large round maters I will just use a single pole then 5-6 plants then another single pole,then again a horizontal twine between them fastened to the poles but with a single wrap around tightened with the twist wire tie to allow adjustment up or down and to also tighten the sag as the plants grow.Best place for bamboo is at the nodes or knuckles.The whole ladder Idea is to let me adjust the twine and the leaders of the plant to where I want them instead of a fixed trellis.Also I can break it down and store for next year.Just as a note for containers after the plant show roots coming out of the holes at the bottom of the pot I water at the saucers fill them up and can monitor the amount of moisture that each plant might need.I will mix fertilizer with this water about once a week but usually use the foliar spray for best results.Correct watering can prevent the overwatering/cracking problem that some cherrys seem to get.
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