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January 6, 2012 | #1 |
Tomatovillian™
Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: West Palm Beach, FL
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White fly?
When I brush against my tomato plants very small white things become airborne. I have been told they are white flies.
I spoke to a person at a garden center who said to use Safer Soap on them, but he was out of stock. I then spoke with a person at a hydroponic store who suggested using Azamax. She said it was the best product on the market for insects. I did a search on this site for Azamax and there were zero results. I was wondering which of these two products are better or would you suggest a different product. Thanks. Rob |
January 6, 2012 | #2 |
Tomatovillian™
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I made the mistake last year I left white flys on potato plants. After a very wet June and July i had so much rain my plants would not grow up only 36" high and turning yellow leafs. Well the flys would fly to the next plant my Tomatoes plants,I had some disease. I had 1 plant die in 1 week, then ever week another plant. I got plants out fast but the flys much AF gotten on most plants. By Aug 15 i had 2 plants left.
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January 6, 2012 | #3 |
Tomatovillian™
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Campbell, CA
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If you elect a "passive" approach, these traps work well:
If you are looking for a more "aggressive" spray solution, thas has worked well for me: It is made up of 90% Canola Oil, plus natural Pyrethrin from flowers. Be sure to spray the UNDERSIDES of the leaves, as this is where whiteflies hang out. Raybo |
January 7, 2012 | #4 |
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Join Date: Jan 2012
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I have used Pyola by Garden's Alive. It's also canola oil and pyrethrin. I'm sure there are others out there too.
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January 7, 2012 | #5 |
Tomatovillian™
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: North Charleston,South Carolina, USA
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BTW I have never seen White flies before, here up north. Until last summer here. It would make a great 3D movie
Attack of the White fly's!!!!! |
January 7, 2012 | #6 |
Tomatovillian™
Join Date: Feb 2011
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Thanks everyone for your input. I think I will take the more aggressive approach because how many there seem to be and use the passive approach in the future. I will see if I can find the Take Down Garden Spray locally.
Rob |
January 7, 2012 | #7 |
Tomatovillian™
Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: Homestead,Everglades City Fl.
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We have a infestation down here in S Florida almost everywhere.Ladybugs bought online have done a great job for me and my neighbors here.If you have a large garden and want to keep the costs down the natural predator approach is the best solution plus they are great pollinators.If you buy them release them in the infected area water the area first for as they will be thirsty from travel and once they are released they will think it is there home and will lay egg sacs in the area.But they will move on once thier food source is gone .We fortunately have a lot of flowering trees and plants to keep them around,and a endless supply of whiteflys to keep them happy.They also love mites and scales.Good Luck
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January 7, 2012 | #8 |
Tomatovillian™
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We have a infestation down here in S Florida almost everywhere.Ladybugs bought online have done a great job for me and my neighbors here.If you have a large garden and want to keep the costs down the natural predator approach is the best solution plus they are great pollinators.If you buy them release them in the infected area water the area first for as they will be thirsty from travel and once they are released they will think it is there home and will lay egg sacs in the area.But they will move on once thier food source is gone .We fortunately have a lot of flowering trees and plants to keep them around,and a endless supply of whiteflys to keep them happy.They also love mites and scales.Good Luck
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January 7, 2012 | #9 |
Tomatovillian™
Join Date: Feb 2011
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My mother has a small screened porch/patio with a few plants. I wonder how they would like those living arrangements.
Rob |
January 7, 2012 | #10 |
Tomatovillian™
Join Date: Oct 2011
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After they eat all they can and do not have a breeding enviorment they will try to get out.For a enclosed area the chemical appproach would be the only way.
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January 7, 2012 | #11 |
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Join Date: Jan 2012
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I had tried to get some soap for my gongura plant recently. Due to it being out of stock the plant died. I suggest to the OP get immediately from anywhere and also try online shops.
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February 6, 2012 | #12 |
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Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: Plantation, Florida zone 10
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I had the same problem, I am in Plantation, and we are infested up here with forty to fifty types of whitefly, including the Silverleaf which causes Tomato Yellow Leaf Curl Virus. I looked into alot of methods, including Laybugs and yellow sticky traps, and found a fantastic, and Organic method. Just spray once/week with Neem oil. Its a bactericide as well as a fungicide, and it is lethal to Aphids and whiteflys, and it's inexpensive too!
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October 17, 2013 | #13 |
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Join Date: May 2012
Location: Brooksville, FL
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I just set out another 10 plants 3 weeks ago, and they really took off 1 week ago I notice they just stopped growing and now the leaves are turning brown. This is also showing up on my peppers and lemon cucumber plants. I sprayed 2 nights ago with neem oil on the underneath side of each tomato plant a well as the others. The leaves look even worse today.
So what have I don't wrong, the white things are still noticeable on the underneath side. Does the neem kill them or kept the white flies away once you spray or does it take several days? Any help would be so appreciated. I tell ya, trying to grown veggies in FL is driving me insane. I think I'm ready to move back to KY where we had a wonderful garden with very little problems.
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October 17, 2013 | #14 |
Tomatovillian™
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The neem seems to just stop the white flys from flying and reproducing.Neem also tends to "coat"and smother the tomatoe leaves if applied too heavily"I got over anxious".Thats why I went to the beneficial L Bugs.For immediate eradication the Monterey Take Down works really well.On my plants in the yard I use the Take Down.Solo makes a inverted spray nozzle pump sprayer(and extension wand) for the underneath of leaves and hard to get areas.White flys can reproduce almost every three days it seems.A good spray underneath and wait about a half hour and a good rinse will with fresh water will clear dead critters,will blow away the little fuzzy eggs and nymphs to the ground and let the plant air out from accumilation of the oils.Once you get the white flys it seems to be a two to three week period for almost 99% eradication.But a good regimen of observation and spraying will knock them out.Good Luck.
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October 17, 2013 | #15 |
Tomatovillian™
Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: Plantation, Florida zone 10
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Jan, Kurt's advice for the use of neem is right on target.
What worked the best of all for me was yellow sticky traps about every 5 feet, they are so strongly attracted to the bright yellow color that I had virtually no more whitefly problems, or the virus they give the plants, after I started using them. I am using them this year along with blue sticky traps because I have lots of thrips too, and thrips are attracted to the blue color. Interesting aside, I read that thrips are even more strongly attracted to hot pink but its not available in a trap card yet. I bet you could buy hot pink drink cups, coat them in tanglefoot or vaseline and put them out on a stake with a couple of pushpins. Getting back to the neem, if you spray, also please be careful to spray only late afternoon or early morning, because neem is an oil so sun can cook the leaves. I also noticed that neem makes the leaves curl, so I try not to use it much. Why not buy some ladybugs? They don't cost much and they devour whiteflies. Sorry for the long winded post, hope it was helpful. Can you post some pictures so we can help you see what is wrong? Marsha |
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