Brandywine X Neves Azorean Red F4

[TightenUp]

This variety was given to me by a lovely lady here a t'ville. i had trouble keeping my in ground plants healthy but the one i stuck in a SWC took off. now i am getting tons of ripe tomatoes and i've been giving them away as i just cant eat them fast enough. i will be growing in a SWC next year for sure. i dont want to mention her name but many thanks for sending the seed.

[dokutaaguriin]

HOw is the taste?

[carolyn137]

https://www.mariannasheirloomseeds.c...om-heroes.html

Above is the background info on this variety. Bill sent me seeds for it quite a few years ago b'c Brandywine is a fine tomato and Neves Azorean Red is a variety I introduced and love.

I see you grew the F4 but to stabilize it it was taken out to I think the F7 and then was renamed Dixiewine per the link above.

[TightenUp]

Originally Posted by dokutaaguriin

HOw is the taste?

the taste is superb. i started the seed saving process yesterday and will either grow the F4, F5 or both next year. this variety really loved the SWC.

as importantly as the taste is(which i think is superb), the texture is my fav of the season. i also like the juice content. its not overly juicy and watery but it also far from dry. you can kinda see what i mean in the photo.

i only had 1 cat-faced tomato on the whole plant. the rest look just like the one in the photo. oh and this is a red variety, not pink

[carolyn137]

Originally Posted by TightenUp

the taste is superb. i started the seed saving process yesterday and will either grow the F4, F5 or both next year. this variety really loved the SWC.

as importantly as the taste is(which i think is superb), the texture is my fav of the season. i also like the juice content. its not overly juicy and watery but it also far from dry. you can kinda see what i mean in the photo.

i only had 1 cat-faced tomato on the whole plant. the rest look just like the one in the photo. oh and this is a red variety, not pink

Just noting that in the post above yours where I gave the link that it already has been genetically stabilized and grown out to the F7 to do so, and already named Dixiewine.

And it appears from a Google search that now other Dixie types are in the offing, probably from crossing Dixiewine with another parent.

Just my opinion but if you were to grow it out for the F4, F5, you might well get different results depending on how many plants you put out so that you can see genetic segregation.

If you take a look at that link I think you'll see that along the way in the background of this variety selections were made all the time with the result being what was noted above.

Your choice entirely as to what you want to do with the F4 seeds sent to you.

Taste? Absolutely superb when I first grew it and that was back at maybe the F2/F3 and that was maybe 5 years ago. Thinking about it it must have been either in the summer of 2004 or before b'c I know I hadn't yet fallen that put me into this walker.

Heck, with parents of Brandywine and Neves Azorean Red what else could one expect as to taste?

[TightenUp]

carolyn
i had seen that link before and its a great history of the that specific brannar line. i guess the one i am growing would be different since the seeds i have never went to ray, they went from bill to i think 2 other people before reaching my hands.

anyway what a great tomato

[carolyn137]

Originally Posted by TightenUp

carolyn
i had seen that link before and its a great history of the that specific brannar line. i guess the one i am growing would be different since the seeds i have never went to ray, they went from bill to i think 2 other people before reaching my hands.

anyway what a great tomato

Me be confused.

You said in your first post that you received the seeds from a lady here at Tville as F4 seeds and didn't want to mention her name, but represented your F4's as Brandywine X Neves Azorean Red which is the name of the original cross.

So how do you know that what you have never went to Ray, and how do you know that they went from Bill to two just two others before getting to you as the F4 seeds you got here at Tville.

All I'm saying is that in that link Bill doesn't mention any of the persons he shared seeds with on a pesonal basis, and I wasn't the only one. I saved seeds from the either F2 or F3's from the fruits from the seeds that Bill sent me, and no doubt still have them somewhere but I was not going to pursue it b'c I knew Bill and others were doing the same.

I was at idig, but no longer participate there by choice, when a thread started with someone asking about the Brandywine X NAR that Marianne was offering, and I contacted Bill ASAP about it and that's how the whole story unfolded, since I was pretty sure that what she was offering was not yet stable.

Now it is.

Again, your choice on what you want to do with your F4 seeds. You may well come up with some selections that will be totally different from what Dixiewine turned out to be and probably will. That was certainly true with the natural cross that occurred in Craig's garden between Brandywine and Tad, but with Tad being striped that led to a large number of selections and varieties.

And when I dehybridized what became OTV Brandywine I got all sorts of interesting selections, but since the person who returned seeds to Craig that turned out not to be Yellow Brandywine and sent a picture, I went after the large red with PL foliage shown in the picture, which was finally stable at the F5.

Great fun, really.

[lakelady]

Darlene, that's a lovely compliment to you! Sounds like a great tomato

[greyghost]

Lakelady, I had to laugh when they told me that but at the same time I
felt a little horrified by it-I kind of felt they were giving me some credit
for Bill Jeffers hard work and generosity in sharing the seeds, especially
since I hadn't received seeds from him. Fortunately, they're just a small
group of local gardeners-they start their own plants but not into seed saving.
This year, I'll be giving them Dixiewine and telling them it's the same thing.

[lakelady]

I can understand feeling that way, but what a nice compliment all the same! So nice that they are grateful for the delicious fruits you provided to them via those seeds! That reminds me, I owe the men at the extension office some heirloom tomatoes...they aren't familiar with many of them and I promised I'd come back with something for them to taste. Guess I'll be heading over there next week when the next wave ripens but I'll be sure to put labels on them with the proper names

[TightenUp]

Originally Posted by lakelady

I can understand feeling that way, but what a nice compliment all the same! So nice that they are grateful for the delicious fruits you provided to them via those seeds! That reminds me, I owe the men at the extension office some heirloom tomatoes...they aren't familiar with many of them and I promised I'd come back with something for them to taste. Guess I'll be heading over there next week when the next wave ripens but I'll be sure to put labels on them with the proper names

i'm not familiar with heirlooms