Tomatoville® Gardening Forums


Notices

Member discussion regarding the methods, varieties and merits of growing tomatoes.

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old August 30, 2012   #1
Baizanator
Tomatovillian™
 
Baizanator's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: Hamilton, Texas
Posts: 382
Default Bacterial Canker...

If I didn't have bad luck this year I'd have none at all. After Southern Bacterial wilt killed my first set of tomatoes, I planted fall plants in EarthBoxes. Now it appears that bacterial canker is infecting my plants. Are they as good as gone? Really pains me as they're truly beautiful right now.
Baizanator is offline   Reply With Quote
Old August 30, 2012   #2
TightenUp
Tomatovillian™
 
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: Jersey
Posts: 1,183
Default

are you using a preventative? actinovate has helped with minor bacterial issues but ive never experienced southern bacterial wilt. one of my locations has severe bacterial issues and actinovate with molasses and exel lg has actually kept the infected plants alive and producing unblemished fruits(sometimes but not always).

i would give this a shot, if not this year maybe next? this combo did not prevent bacterial disease but merely kept it at bay
__________________

TightenUp is offline   Reply With Quote
Old August 30, 2012   #3
JamesL
Tomatovillian™
 
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: Long Island NY
Posts: 1,992
Default

B,
Have any pictures to post? How sure are you that it is canker, as opposed to say speck?
How many fall plants do you have? How many showing symptoms?
Can you move and isolate? Can I end any more sentences with question marks?
JamesL is offline   Reply With Quote
Old August 31, 2012   #4
Baizanator
Tomatovillian™
 
Baizanator's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: Hamilton, Texas
Posts: 382
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by JamesL View Post
B,
Have any pictures to post? How sure are you that it is canker, as opposed to say speck?
How many fall plants do you have? How many showing symptoms?
Can you move and isolate? Can I end any more sentences with question marks?
I have twelve plants. Three showing symptoms. I have removed affected branches and sprayed the plants. I'll wait a few days and, if it appears on branches further up, I'll take and post pics.

I cannot move plants.
Baizanator is offline   Reply With Quote
Old August 31, 2012   #5
carolyn137
Moderator Emeritus
 
carolyn137's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Upstate NY, zone 4b/5a
Posts: 21,169
Default

I too am wondering about the Dx of both Bacterial Wilt and Bacterial Canker. Both can be diagnosed by putting the cut end of an affected stem in a glass of water and looking for the streaming of the bacteria into the water, which is white. And easy test which has ruled out confusion with other diseases.

Did you see that for both bacterial Wilt and your now Bacterial Canker affected plants?

Both also have many alternative hosts, primarily weeds. And both can be transmitted by chewing insects and both can also be infected via the roots.

Any insects seen? And I ask b'c if growing in an Earth Box I can't see transmission being via natural soil means.

Canker shows fruit symptoms while Wilt does not. And Wilt plants collapse suddenly and totally with the foliage still green while Canker plants do not totally collapse and the wilting seen with Canker can even be unilateral and usually starts just with the lower leaves.

Just wondering about the similarity of the two diseases and the current diagnosis and what alternatives there might be based on the symptoms you saw, which I don't think you described or showed pictures for and asking if you did the bacterial streaming test for both.
__________________
Carolyn
carolyn137 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old August 31, 2012   #6
Baizanator
Tomatovillian™
 
Baizanator's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: Hamilton, Texas
Posts: 382
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by carolyn137 View Post
I too am wondering about the Dx of both Bacterial Wilt and Bacterial Canker. Both can be diagnosed by putting the cut end of an affected stem in a glass of water and looking for the streaming of the bacteria into the water, which is white. And easy test which has ruled out confusion with other diseases.

Did you see that for both bacterial Wilt and your now Bacterial Canker affected plants?

Both also have many alternative hosts, primarily weeds. And both can be transmitted by chewing insects and both can also be infected via the roots.

Any insects seen? And I ask b'c if growing in an Earth Box I can't see transmission being via natural soil means.

Canker shows fruit symptoms while Wilt does not. And Wilt plants collapse suddenly and totally with the foliage still green while Canker plants do not totally collapse and the wilting seen with Canker can even be unilateral and usually starts just with the lower leaves.

Just wondering about the similarity of the two diseases and the current diagnosis and what alternatives there might be based on the symptoms you saw, which I don't think you described or showed pictures for and asking if you did the bacterial streaming test for both.
Carolyn,

After seeing many similar symptoms I'm beginning to wonder if Canker was what I've had all along. You talk about it being hosted in weeds... I live in an apartment and weekly they mow the grass. Sometimes the mower throws grass clippings on my plants. Could that be the source?

Reed
Baizanator is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 10:19 PM.


★ Tomatoville® is a registered trademark of Commerce Holdings, LLC ★ All Content ©2022 Commerce Holdings, LLC ★